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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Attached is the Orange Book draft as of the end of our call today. Below is my note to Ignacio seeking his concurrence with our revisions in response to his comments. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Also, regarding RIDs received related to SPP and EPP, this seems most relevant:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=1628 style='width:1221.0pt;margin-left:-.15pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:11.25pt'><td width=95 valign=top style='width:71.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Reviewer Name<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=84 valign=top style='width:63.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Reviewer Email<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=47 valign=top style='width:35.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>RID #<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=152 valign=top style='width:114.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Paragraph Number<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=131 valign=top style='width:98.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>RID Short Title<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=200 valign=top style='width:150.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>To<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=231 valign=top style='width:173.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Supporting Analysis<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=51 valign=top style='width:38.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Fact<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=95 valign=top style='width:71.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Recommended<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=63 valign=top style='width:47.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Editorial<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=317 valign=top style='width:238.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:11.25pt'><td width=95 valign=top style='width:71.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:solid gray 1.0pt;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Felix Flentge<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=84 valign=top style='width:63.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:felix.flentge@esa.int">felix.flentge@esa.int</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=47 valign=top style='width:35.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>107<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=152 valign=top style='width:114.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>PAGE NUMBER: B2-B3<br>PARAGRAPH NUMBER: B2.1.4 – B2.1.6<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=131 valign=top style='width:98.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>CLA Description Service Interface<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=200 valign=top style='width:150.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>For LTP, SPP and EPP the description of the Convergence Layer Adapters in Annex B shall make use of the respective service interfaces of those protocols.<br>Also, the current description seems to be not covering specific aspects of some of these protocols, eg the use of secondary headers in SPP.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=231 valign=top style='width:173.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>CCSDS protocols define service interfaces which should make it easier to clearly describe how a certain protocol will be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=51 valign=top style='width:38.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=95 valign=top style='width:71.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>1<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=63 valign=top style='width:47.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=317 valign=top style='width:238.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:11.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Annex B 2.1.4 (LTP), B 2.1.5 (SPP), B 2.1.6 (EPP) will be updated to define the CLA’s usage of the underlying CCSDS via its service interface (requests and indications). This will not change the proposed encapsulation of bundles as SDU in PDU of the underlying protocols but may clarify the use of some of the available options. <br><br>Add CFDP UT introductions to LTP, SPP, EPP sections.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Some work to do here…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Robert C Durst <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 6, 2025 12:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int<br><b>Cc:</b> sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org; Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXT] Re: CESG-P-2025-01-004 Approval to publish CCSDS 734.20-O-1, CCSDS Bundle Protocol Version 7 Specification (Orange Book, Issue 1)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi Ignacio,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks for your comments on the draft BPv7 Orange Book. We believe that we have addressed your comments in the attached update to the draft. Could you please look at our proposed updates in response to your comments – refer to sections 2.2, 2.4, and 3.2.2 and let us know if this resolves your concerns.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Please note that we are addressing additional comments related to other sections of the document, and so the document may change in other areas (primarily the Convergence Layer Adapter annex).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>We look forward to your response. If you have questions or comments, please feel free to contact me at your convenience. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Bob Durst<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Robert C. Durst<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chair, CCSDS SIS DTN Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chief Engineer, Infrastructure and Networking Innovation Center<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The MITRE Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Office: +1 703-983-7535<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Mobile: +1 703-217-7414<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Email: </span><a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#0563C1'>durst@mitre.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> CCSDS Secretariat <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 28, 2025 11:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> Robert C Durst <<a href="mailto:durst@mitre.org">durst@mitre.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int">Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez@esa.int</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: CESG-P-2025-01-004 Approval to publish CCSDS 734.20-O-1, CCSDS Bundle Protocol Version 7 Specification (Orange Book, Issue 1)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:.75pt'><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:white'>Dear Document Rapporteur, The CESG poll to approve publication of CCSDS 734.</span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white'> </span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:white'>20-O-1, CCSDS Bundle Protocol Version 7 Specification (Orange Book, Issue 1) concluded with conditions. Please negotiate disposition of the conditions directly with<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:.75pt'><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Dear Document Rapporteur,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The CESG poll to approve publication of CCSDS 734.20-O-1, CCSDS Bundle Protocol Version 7 Specification (Orange Book, Issue 1) concluded with conditions. Please negotiate disposition of the conditions directly with the AD(s) who voted to approve with conditions and CC the Secretariat on all related correspondence.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2025-01-004 Approval to publish CCSDS 734.20-O-1, CCSDS Bundle Protocol Version 7 Specification (Orange Book, Issue 1)<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Results of CESG poll beginning 6 January 2025 and ending 27 January 2025:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Abstain: 0 (0%) <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Approve Unconditionally: 3 (75%) (Barkley, Cola, Singh)<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Approve with Conditions: 1 (25%) (Aguilar Sanchez)<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%) <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Erik Barkley (Approve Unconditionally): Let me emphasize this is not a condition. I will note that CESG may wish to discuss how to properly track the addtion of "orange" extenstions into "blue" registries -- the organge book here indicates new fields for the SANA SS&A registry. That's fine, but as an "experimental" recommendation, is the new information also considered "experimental"? (Note that there has never been a CCSDS data management policy developed, and I think this is another example of why a data management policy is needed).<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez (Approve with Conditions): Condition 1. On subsection 2.2, second paragraph it is mentioned that a bundle endpoint can have zero bundle nodes. Can you explain why and eventually document the answer in an approprite place of the document?<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Condition 2. On the same paragraph referred to above, the notion of 'anonymous' bundles is mentioned. Can you explain why such bundles are needed and what is their purpose? Again please document the answer in an appropriate place of the document.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Condition 3. On subsection 2.4, the services not supported by this specification are stated. The paragraph underneath points to reliable CLAs and/or application-level reliability mechanism to improve reliability. Does reliability imply the provision of services a), b) and c) mentioned above? Please confirm.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Condition 4. Sentence in clause 3.2.2 is not understood. Is the purpose to deny only or to support only bundles with dtn:none? Depending on the answer there might be a typo on the verb used in the sentence or perhaps a rephrase may be needed. Note that I am not a native English speaker.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Simon Singh (Approve Unconditionally): This is being published to meet the requrements of LunaNet community. However, it does requre some corrections. My understanding is that these corrections can be provided as Errata Sheets and that LunaNet community has agreed to it. Alternative would be to correct the document before publishing it. SIS can decide the best way forward. <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>This is revision of my earlier vote, although the approval rating has not changed.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>This is being published to meet the requrements of LunaNet community. However, it does requre some corrections, provided as comments in the attached document. LunaNet community has been provided with a draft copy of the document, i.e. the version which is the subject of this poll. Recommendation is that attached comments should be addressed in the publication of the Orange Book. <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Total Respondents: 4<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>No response was received from the following Area(s):<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> SEA<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> MOIMS<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> SOIS<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved with Conditions<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION: Generate CMC poll after conditions have been addressed<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre></div></body></html>