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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Many thanks to Scott for leading the discussion and for all who were able to participate. I started a RID spreadsheet for BPSec (attached) and will upload it to CWE presently.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> sburleig.sb@gmail.com <sburleig.sb@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 5, 2023 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Robert C Durst <durst@mitre.org>; sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [EXT] RE: [Sis-dtn] Today's telecon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:.75pt'><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:white'>Hi. The agenda item for today’s meeting was review of Tom Gannett’s editorial RIDs against the BPSec draft (734x5r2. pdf). Here’s what I believe we agreed on: 3. 2. 2: agreed. No applicable normative documents exists, so this <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:.75pt'><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Hi. The agenda item for today’s meeting was review of Tom Gannett’s editorial RIDs against the BPSec draft (734x5r2.pdf). Here’s what I believe we agreed on:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>3.2.2: agreed. No applicable normative documents exists, so this language must be non-normative. Something like “Implementers of security contexts are encouraged to consult the remarks on key management mechanisms in CCSDS 350.6-G-1 (reference [6]).”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>4.4.9: two revisions:<o:p></o:p></span></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>The words “Endpoint IDentifier (EID)” should be changed to “Node Identifier” in 4.4.9.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>“Security Source” should be added to the parameters listed in the Semantics of the ApplyBIB.request (4.5.2.2) and ApplyBCB.request (4.5.2.7).<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>4.5.9.4 and 4.5.11.2: two resolutions:<o:p></o:p></span></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Removal of all accepted security options from the BIB and removal of the BIB from the bundle (if all security operations have been removed) are actually additional Effects of the AcceptBIB.request; 4.5.11.2.2 and 4.5.11.2.3 should be removed (possibly restated as NOTES in 4.5.11.3) and their language added to 4.5.9.4.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Meanwhile, most of the effects currently listed in 4.5.9.4 are actually (correctly) listed among the Effects on Receipt of VerifyBIB.request; they can be removed from 4.5.9.4. The remaining current Effect (“generates an AcceptBIB.indication”) is correct.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Similarly, two resolutions for 4.5.10.4 and 4.5.12.2:<o:p></o:p></span></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Removal of all accepted security options from the BCB, removal of the BCB from the bundle (if all security operations have been removed), conditional modification of the target blocks of the confidentiality service, conditional replacement of ciphertext by plaintext, and conditional removal of target blocks are actually additional Effects of the AcceptBCB.request; 4.5.12.2.2, 4.5.12.2.3, 4.5.12.2.4, and 4.5.12.2.5 should be removed (possibly restated as NOTES in 4.5.12.3) and their language added to 4.5.10.4.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Meanwhile, most of the effects currently listed in 4.5.10.4 are actually (correctly) listed among the Effects on Receipt of VerifyBCB.request; they can be removed from 4.5.10.4 and moreover the text regarding the inclusion of decrypted versions of encrypted blocks can be removed (as this effect is implicit in the other Effects imported from 4.5.12.2). The remaining Effect (“generates an AcceptBCB.indication”) is correct.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>One other note that came to me as I was reviewing these: I think the words “verify the integrity of” should be changed to “effect” (or maybe “implement”) in the Function descriptions of AcceptBIB.request (4.5.9.1) and AcceptBCB.request (4.5.10.1). In both cases I think the verification is performed by the corresponding Verify requests; these Accept requests are instead issued in response to the information provided in the corresponding Verify indications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> SIS-DTN <<a href="mailto:sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert C Durst via SIS-DTN<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 5, 2023 7:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Sis-dtn] Today's telecon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>I won’t be able to join today’s telecon, as I’ll be on a monthly call with IETF DTN WG chairs and Area Directors.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>I *<b>believe</b>* that Scott B indicated that he could moderate today’s call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>Best,<br>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>