[SIS-CFDPV1] [EXTERNAL] [BULK] Re: CFDP unbounded transfers

Wiegand, Robert E. (GSFC-5830) robert.e.wiegand at nasa.gov
Wed Oct 11 17:46:12 UTC 2023


The large file flag and segment metadata added by CCSDS 727.0-B-5 certainly affected some content field locations / sizes. AFAICT, allowing large file flag 0 for small unbounded files does not further complicate the header parsing or content processing.

My guess was that the reason for the constraint was to prevent the ‘large file’ flag from being changed during a transaction (which I think is wise).

regards
bob



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Does this cause any problems for high speed implementations? I thought one of the reasons for the fixed header fields was that you could directly parse the header with no other knowledge thereby speeding up the act of processing the PDU.

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Hi Bob,

I tend to agree that we should also allow ‘small’ unbounded files without FSS if the sender ensures that they will be < 4GB.

If  there are no objections, I will integrate this change in my B6 draft.

Regards,
Felix

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Subject: [SIS-CFDPV1] CFDP unbounded transfers

Greetings,

I have a comment/question regarding unbounded file transfers.

CCSDS 727.0-B-5 says in Table 5-1: Fixed PDU Header Fields

… All files of unbounded size shall be flagged ‘large’…

If the sender can ensure the unbounded file being transferred will be of size < 4GB, why must the sender/receiver use FSS size 64 bits for all PDUs?

Disadvantages:

-        each FDU 32 bits larger;

-        NAK sequence nearly doubles in size;

-        hardware/software built for 32 bit FSS cannot use unbounded file transfers

I am not seeing advantages that cannot be addressed without this constraint.

Any thoughts or explanation?
thank you
bob

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