<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpb2ba54d0yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div style="font-size: 16px;">Ill serve as a go-to for ontology topics. Please contact me on or offlist whenever its discussed.</div><div style="font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 16px;">But id recommend exercising caution with regard to potentially incorporating any trending topic, include llm or that. There is a lot of unknowns, cautionary experiences to date, and ethical issues related to both.</div><div class="ydpb2ba54d0signature"><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><div style="font-size: 13px;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size: 13px;">Respectfully,</div><div><div class="ydp10393cf1gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="font-size: 13px;">Robert <font size="2">Rovetto</font><br><div>--</div><div><br></div><div>Ontologist</div></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2">http://purl.org/space-ontology</font><br><div dir="ltr"><font size="2">https://knowledgemodeling.setmore.com</font></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size: 13px;"><div><font size="2"> </font><span style="font-size:16px;"><span><span style="font-size:16px;"><font size="2" style="background-color: inherit;"><span><span><span>NASA Datanauts Open Data Initiative class of 2017</span></span></span></font></span></span></span></div></div><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span><span style="font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font size="2">US Merchant Marine. Available to serve in rescue response. </font></div></div></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 16px;"><br></div>
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On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 07:54:59 AM GMT+10, Shames, Peter M (US 312B) via SEA-SA <sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org> wrote:
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I’ll be in London. Look forward to visiting face to face (or beer to beer).</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Please do check RASIM. We can provide you with the extensions that we think are most needed, which trend into virtualization, web/cloud deployment, containerization, and the like. We are also talking about
beefing up the whole ontology / LLM aspect. A certain amount of this is less to do with info arch and more to do with deployment patterns, but we think it is useful to discuss those trends.</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Those two diagrams were intended to sketch this out. Does this make sense to you?</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Cheers, Peter</span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">david@giaretta.org <david@giaretta.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, July 8, 2024 at 2:09</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>'SEA-SA' <sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] RE: RASIM update planning</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hi Peter</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Thanks for the invitation. I can join and I’ll ask other DAI folk. However, I have a regular meeting on Mondays starting 30 mins after yours, so I may have to duck out for a short time.</span></p>
<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">I will have to go through RASIM to remind myself of the context and finer details.</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">I hope to see you in London. My recollection is that we owed each other a beer.
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">Regards</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">David</span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 8, 2024 5:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Giaretta (david@giaretta.org) <david@giaretta.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> SEA-SA (sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org) <sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RASIM update planning</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hi David,</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I hope all is well with you. Good to see you on the ISO call the other day. You seem to be making progress with the ISO on processes, and that is a very good thing.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121;">We just had the monthly meeting of the SEA SAWG crew that is focused on architecture. The RASIM is the next major document that the SAWG is to tackle; we have started to discuss how to make
progress on the RASIM updates and think we have identified a person to lead that effort. We discussed these topics, in general, at the last SAWG working meetings.
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121;">Is the DAI WG still interested in this? Will you be able to attend the next SAWG meeting, which is scheduled for 12 August at 0700 PDT?</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121;">I’d like to hear from you and learn if this is of value. We have discussed a couple revisions and some new diagrams. I’ve attached a couple for your consideration that will give you an idea
of what we are considering.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;"></span></p>
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<p class="ydpb2ba54d0yiv8181507027MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121;">Best regards, Peter</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;"></span></p>
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