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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">SEA-SA<span class="apple-converted-space"> RASDS</span> working meeting on 8 Jan 24</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Attendees: Shelbun Cheng (JPL), Joseph Howard (BAH), Josiah Johnson (MSFC), Ramon Krosley (JSC), Peter Shames (JPL), Fred Slane (SC14), Christian Stangl (DLR), Paul Thompson (UKSA), Karl Vaden (GRC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<u><span style="color:black">Discussion of Major Revision Progress of <span class="apple-converted-space">
RASDS</span>++ – Peter Shames</span></u><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">Reviewed the draft
<span class="apple-converted-space">RASDS</span>++ document, dated 5 Jan 2024, that was distributed to the WG<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">In general the team was pleased with the results of the “slimming diet” we had agreed to apply to the document<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">Only Secs 1 - 6 are done at this point, revisions of the rest of the document are in process<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">The following notes reflect the result of the tour through Sec 1-6<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Notes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Sec 1.4 still needs a “slimming diet”. As do some of the parts of sec ?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">In Sec 1.4, related to MBSE, mention need for profiles in the existing tools and the use of these methods in producing “digital twins”.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">In the Enterprise VP we need to add Resources (including People) to the Attribute set.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Add resources to Enterprise Concerns in Sec 4.1.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Agreed to acknowledge the use of the simple ontology views as part of the presentation style, and to point out that this approach is now in wider use in the Info Viewpoint. It’s self-referential,
but seems useful. This topic will be revisited in the Information VP when we get to it. After all, people used to do data models, but they now are doing knowledge engineering and building LLMs.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Object representation discussion in sec 4, point back to fig 3-1 where this stuff is defined.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">The Figure 4-6 needs to be updated to include a Launch Complex (Fred Slane).<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Need to add an element related to cloud deployments and cybersecurity elements to table 5-2.
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Make sure that the topic of “derived VPs” is introduced, in a formal way, earlier in the document than in sec 6.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Do a final pass to, among other things, fix how Notes appear (indented), the Acronyms are all gathered up, References made whole, Figure references are correct, etc.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Joseph asked if it were possible to provide a MBSE model, at least of the parts we describe. Ans: We do not believe that we have the resources to do this, but will include several links
to relevant and useful papers. (INCOSE, <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">Joseph raised the question about the use of Universal Description, Discovery, and Integration (UDDI) model that has been defined in the Open Group (<a href="https://www.oasis-open.org/standard/uddi/">https://www.oasis-open.org/standard/uddi/</a>).
We spent some time after the meeting exploring this and related work and will look into it further.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo5">The question of whether we will want to include domain specific data models as a concept in the Information Viewpoint will be further explored.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-converted-space"><u><span style="color:black">RASDS</span></u></span><u><span style="color:black">++ document finalization – Peter Shames</span></u><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">The final revisions to the
<span class="apple-converted-space">RASDS</span>++ Word version of the document is in process<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
The CWE folder has the latest files, at:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=*2Fsea*2Fdocs*2FSEA*2DSA*2FDraft*20Documents*2FRASDS*20Revisions*202020*2FRASDS*20revisions*20draft*20documents&FolderCTID=0x012000F83FD93BEFF45E4FB5D1769B01CA762F&View=*7BA709F322*2D0E67*2D45C7*2D932D*2DCB78C55CE268*7D__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!LFUqVMWvOZeQJ5Zj8xm440oeAz3dQEfnWrPj2rnzZihjZUrKS4FKBBGQ5wdTUU4RCrq-F9Q8AhYHEWwn8uJnXjE7lm_3hCnNi0ss$" title="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=*2Fsea*2Fdocs*2FSEA*2DSA*2FDraft*20Documents*2FRASDS*20Revisions*202020*2FRASDS*20revisions*20draft*20documents&FolderCTID=0x012000F83FD93BEFF45E4FB5D1769B01CA762F&Vie"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2F</span><span class="searchhighlight"><span style="color:#070706;background:#FFEE94">RASDS</span></span><span style="color:#0563C1">%20Revisions%202020%2F</span><span class="searchhighlight"><span style="color:#070706;background:#FFEE94">RASDS</span></span><span style="color:#0563C1">%20revisions%20draft%20documents&FolderCTID=0x012000F83FD93BEFF45E4FB5D1769B01CA762F&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D</span></a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">Section writing assignments, updated/clarified from the original version, are in the file:<span class="apple-converted-space"> RASDS</span>++ ToC draft - writing assignments - 2023 August
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The latest version of the draft document, 311x0p2<span class="apple-converted-space"> RASDS</span>++ Draft 5Jan24, is now updated in the<span class="apple-converted-space"> RASDS </span>2020 Revisions CWE folder.
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<b><i>=> Action Item for Fred: revisit the figure 4-6 and make any needed updates, like adding a launch complex</i></b><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<b><i>=> Action item for Costin: revise the Operations viewpoint, Sec 10, to better align with the section flow and contents used in the other sections</i></b><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<b><i>=> Action item for Peter: finish the initial major “hack and slash” document edit pass</i></b><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<b><i>=> Action item for the whole Team: review the document and provide feedback on the revised sections</i></b><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b><span style="color:black">Next Working Meeting, 12 Feb 24 @ 0700 AM PST</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="color:black">Prior to the next meetings:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
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<u><span style="color:black"> Agenda for the meeting:</span></u><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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