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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear SEA SAWG members, RASDS subset,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We held a telecon on 13 Feb 23.  Here are the rough minutes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Attendees: Ramon Krosley, Shelbun Cheng, Faramaz Davarian, Christian Stangl, Peter Shames<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">We agreed to try using the CCSDS Sharepoint on-line editing capability to help eliminate some of the versioning issues (see later notes for some comments on that)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">The team agreed that they liked the graphic from Voyager Neptune as a visual describing “viewpoints”<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">We discussed the use of the new term “derived viewpoints” in re the new Physical Viewpoint and the derived Connectivity and Structural Viewpoints.  We agreed to adopt this approach
 and fit the materials into it.  The use of Correspondence appears to be powerful enough to do what we need and to provide a framework for other derived extensions.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">We agreed to try and create a “UML-like” diagram of the viewpoints and derived viewpoints for sec 2.1.  Shelbun has taken that as an action item.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">We discussed the use of the terms Component and Connector in the Physical Viewpoint and their correspondence to the Node and Link terms used in the derived Connectivity Viewpoint.
   The notion of correspondence works to cover these terminology mappings too.  We believe that the same should be true of mapping into a new, as yet unspecified, derived, Thermal Viewpoint with mapping of Connector, in that case, to “Thermal Flow”.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">Agreed to use something like an RTG connected to the body of a spacecraft bus as a Structural VP example.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">We discussed the distinction between architectural representations and engineering representations.  That is one of the core foci of this document and it needs to be made even more
 crisp.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">As part of this discussion, we agreed to move the current Sec 2.10 and 2.11 to earlier in the document, after the Sec 2.2 intro.  Exact location TBD.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">We reviewed Fred’s new draft Service Viewpoint text.  Discussed the distinctions between “services”, which may be of many forms, including internal ones, and the formal Services that
 we are treating, formally offered Services at the interface of a system.  As an analog, these may appear in a Service Catalog, in some ways that is just what the tabular form at the heart of the Viewpoint is intended to address.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1">There were some other concerns about proposed use of terminology in the new Services VP, but these will be addressed in the next meeting when Fred is present.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Follow-up Notes:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">The latest version of the document, 311x0p2 RASDS++ Draft 13Feb23, is now updated in the RASDS 2020 Revisions working documents, located in the CWE at:
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https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2FRASDS%20Revisions%202020%2FRASDS%20revisions%20draft%20documents&FolderCTID=0x012000F83FD93BEFF45E4FB5D1769B01CA762F&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">The current version of the document includes Fred’s Services Viewpoint, merged into the document as a new section 9.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">The old section 2.10 and 2.11 are now sections 2.2 and 2.1 to provide an introduction to modeling and viewpoints early in the document.  Some “smoothing” may be needed to get the flow
 right.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Use of Sharepoint as an editing tool:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4">I tried to use Sharepoint on-line to merge in Fred’s new Services section and that was a dismal failure, Sharepoint cannot handle it and trying to edit that sort of large chunk of
 text seems intractable.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4">At the same time, trying to do the same thing in Word was also problematic, I wound up manually creating new section headings and doing a copy / paste, section by section, in Word.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4">For the record, here are other notes from this on-line editing session:<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle">
<li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Tried to open doc in Sharepoint, took 15 seconds to open<o:p></o:p></li><li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Tried to use “accessibility mode”, blew up with error message<o:p></o:p></li><li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Tried to cut / paste sec 2.11, “Sorry, Word online cannot cut this section”<o:p></o:p></li><li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Was able to select and copy text and then go back and delete original section.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Minor edits worked just fine and all edits, including flawed ones, were preserved.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Seems that online Word has a mind of it’s own, it jumps back to the start of the document all by itself, a lot.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Figures behave weirdly, show up cropped on-line until you select them and stretch the borders so they can be seen.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="square">
<li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level3 lfo4">Back in regular Word these figures are then stretched outside the normal boundaries and have to be adjusted again.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">Renumbering of sections gets screwed up sometimes<o:p></o:p></li><li class="li1" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4">I could not figure out how to add new sections with new section number on-line, in the regular Word there is just a menu item to do it<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><u>My conclusion is that this on-line editing in Sharepoint
<b><i>may</i></b> be useful for simultaneous edits that are modest in nature.  <o:p>
</o:p></u></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4">It should be possible to insert new text, make modest changes to text, and to use a sort of “Copy / Paste / Delete” process to move chunks of text around in the body of the document<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4">Based on this limited trial I think it worthwhile to continue to try and use it for our purposes, but for major edits, insertion of new sections and figures, etc, I think we had best
 resort to downloading a copy, making these edits, and then uploading a new version. 
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4">It may be that the “Document Checkout” feature will work to help manage CM control (see screenshot), I have not tried that. 
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4">If someone has experience with this feature please inform us if, and how well, it works.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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