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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Yonghui, and the rest of the SAWG,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I carefully setup the meeting, scheduled the telecon, and then forgot to send out the announcement to all of you.  Just realized that now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I hope you can all still join the meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Apologies, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="color:black">Yonghui Huang <huangyonghui@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 5:43 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, SEA-SA <sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho";color:black">回复</span><span style="color:black">: [Sea-sa] Notes from 9 Feb 17 SAWG Telecon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Hi Peter,<br>
I haven't received any information of todays meeting.<br>
Will you pls send it again?<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Yonghui <o:p></o:p></p>
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-------- <span style="font-family:"MS Mincho"">原始</span><span style="font-family:SimSun">邮</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho"">件</span> --------<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
主题:</span>[Sea-sa] Notes from 9 Feb 17 SAWG Telecon<span style="font-family:PMingLiU"><br>
发件人:</span>"Shames, Peter M (312B)" <br>
<span style="font-family:"MS Mincho"">收件人:</span>SEA-SA <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">SAWG Telecon – 9 Feb17</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Attendees: Ray Krosley, Eduardo Bergamini, Roger Thompson, Lyu Liangqing, Huang Yonghui, Peter Shames</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Discuss issues with proposed Green Book outline</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sec 1, no issues identified</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sec 2, proposed:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Removing Sec 2.7, focus for this document / applications layer is on Functions, not Nodes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Will retain the ABA, SSI distinctions, and also the protocols, patterns, nodes from the SCCS-ADD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     
</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Will need to describe distinctions among user nodes, not just EUN, introduce meaningful neutral terms like Mission Operations Node (MON), Science Operations Node (SON), Data Archive Node (DAN).  These are
 intended to be meaningful in terms of motivating various allocations of functions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Revise Sec 2.9, Assumptions.  Consider use of DoT everywhere.  Do not re-invent the wheel, consider tailoring vs developing new standards.  Consider how to layer upon various frameworks like Enterprise
 Service Bus (ESB) and how to interface to other CCSDS standards instead of trying to replace them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Retain the SSI / ABA distinctions, but also</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Clarify that we already use internetworking (specifically TCP/IP) on the ground</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Introduce the concept of delay tolerant / delay aware applications, this is an important aspect</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">PS to provide the security sub-sections as needed</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Contact Richard Melvin to see how he is doing with his EDS vs MAL evaluation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">RT to draft revisions to Sec 2 & 3 outlines</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">PS to contact Melvin and Cooper @ EDS evaluation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">23 Feb 2017, see meeting announcement with Webex info</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">9 March 2017</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">23 Mar 2017</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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