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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The role of the deputy chair in the CCSDS organization book seems to be to serve where and when the chair cannot. That’s a non-trivial level of commitment, even if it is never invoked, because the deputy must be ready. It’s probably beneficial to draw the deputy from an agency different from that of the chair, in order to recognize the breadth of importance of the work of the group among agencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I saw a spread sheet a few years ago that showed that a significant number of working groups had no co-chair (which I think is the same a deputy). If I remember correctly, there were as much as a third of the working groups in that status at that time. I don’t know how that situation has evolved, but its current state compared to the previous state would tell us something about the value of deputies in the CCSDS organization.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It appears that appointing a deputy chair would incur no cost on the working group, and could add to the working capacity of the group.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ramon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> sea-sa-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:sea-sa-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shames, Peter M (312B)<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2016 2:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> Eduardo W. Bergamini <e.w.bergamini@uol.com.br><br><b>Cc:</b> SEA-SA-CCSDS <sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Sea-sa] SAWG Deputy WG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear Eduardo,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you for the kind words and support. I understand that your agency may not be in a positin to directly contribute at this time, but your support is always welcome and has helped.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Best regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Eduardo Bergamini <<a href="mailto:e.w.bergamini@uol.com.br">e.w.bergamini@uol.com.br</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 1:33 PM<br><b>To: </b>Peter Shames <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>SEA-SA <<a href="mailto:sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org">sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Sea-sa] SAWG Deputy WG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0in' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I appreciate your efficiency in presenting this issue that was brought up in our CMC <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>meeting we are helding here, in INPE. I had the privilege to be in the meeting where<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>this question was posed to you by one of our attendants.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From my perspective, aware of the overall context of the discussions at the moment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>the question was posed to you, I got the feeling that it came up, I would express it, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>accidentally. I say it, because the main theme which was under dicussion was not <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>centered on this type of subject, at that moment. Just that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>As you are more aware than all of us, I understand that the major concern of SA WG <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>at this stage of the work is to accumulate, as possible more, more man-hour power <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>than other potentials, which may also be important.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From my part, I can readily express you that I have no proposal, at all, for a Deputy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>WG Chair. In fact, this issue came up to my mind only as a result of your addressing <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>to us, as expressed. I do hope that, yes, SA WG may gradually count on an increase<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>in the men-hours it is in need to.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you for your kind pondering, Peter. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Congratulations for what SA WG is gradually achieving. In my opinion, and you know <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>quite well, why, a very important initiative for CCSDS.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Eduardo<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>______________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov" title="peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov"><span style='color:#646B86'>Shames, Peter M (312B)</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'> Tuesday, April 26, 2016 4:08 PM</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org" title="sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='color:#646B86'>SEA-SA</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#646B86'> [Sea-sa] SAWG Deputy WG Chair</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear SAWG team,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>During today’s CESG report to the CMC the question was raised as to whether we needed / wanted a Deputy WG chair. I am bringing the question to you. Here are the questions we need to answer:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Do we want Deputy System Architecture WG Chair? There is no requirement for one, but we can appoint one if we see value. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If the answer is yes, then are any of you interested in that role? The WG Chair role is described in the CCSDS Org & Proc doc, CCSDS A02x1y4c1, which is found on the CCSDS web site. Look particularly at section 2.3.3.4. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If we do decide we want a Deputy WG Chair I will, as a courtesy, ask the CMC if any of the agencies have a suitable candidate. Since there is some prestige associated with having a WG chair or deputy some agencies may propose other people, which also means more resources, always a good thing. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Depending on the outcome of all of this, which will take at least three-four weeks, we will pick a Deputy WG Chair and I will propose it to the CESG for concurrence.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>So …<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Do we want Deputy System Architecture WG Chair?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Are any of you interested in that role?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Answers please by close of business, California time, Monday, 2 May 2016.</span></u><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=4 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>SEA-SA mailing list<br><a href="mailto:SEA-SA@mailman.ccsds.org">SEA-SA@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><a href="http://mailman.ccsds.org/mailman/listinfo/sea-sa">http://mailman.ccsds.org/mailman/listinfo/sea-sa</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>