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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Ok. Thanks for the clarification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Mehran Sarkarati <Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, October 28, 2024 at 11:03</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shames, Peter M (US 9740) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, tomaso.decola@dlr.de <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Secretariat <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org <moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org>, Daniel Fischer <Daniel.Fischer@esa.int><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] [Moims-sc] FW: CESG-P-2024-06-001 Approval to release CCSDS 522.2-R-2, Mission Operations—Mission Data Product Distribution Services (Red Book, Issue 2) for CCSDS Agency review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Dear Peter,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Sorry if my statement was unclear.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Tomaso’s concern was related to the “Data Model” hence our answer is formulated towards that concern.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">The “service specification and service operations” are of course normative but not subject of Tomaso’s comment.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Hope this clarifies.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Mehran
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Shames, Peter M (US 9740) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 28. October 2024 at 18:56<br>
<b>To: </b>Mehran Sarkarati <Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int>, tomaso.decola@dlr.de <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Secretariat <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org <moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org>, Daniel Fischer <Daniel.Fischer@esa.int><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] [Moims-sc] FW: CESG-P-2024-06-001 Approval to release CCSDS 522.2-R-2, Mission Operations—Mission Data Product Distribution Services (Red Book, Issue 2) for CCSDS Agency review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Dear Mehran,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I just saw this note and had to go back through the email and document trail again to make sure that I understand just what is being proposed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I understood that you were standardizing:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">The service specification and service operations (sec 3)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">The service data type definitions (sec 4)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I am well aware that in the usual SMC style these are all specified as abstractions, and that they do not become fully realized until there is an interface binding and data binding
applied. So we can leave that issue out of discussion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">What caught my eye in your last email to Tomaso was this statement:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">“only
<b>the data type definitions, </b>contained in section 4 are normative”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">This statement, if accurate, would appear to nullify the “</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">service specification and service operations” that are defined in
Section 3. Is that really your intent? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Regards, Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">MOIMS-SC <moims-sc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Mehran Sarkarati via MOIMS-SC <moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, October 28, 2024 at 10:07</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>tomaso.decola@dlr.de <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Secretariat <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org <moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org>, Daniel Fischer <Daniel.Fischer@esa.int><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Moims-sc] FW: CESG-P-2024-06-001 Approval to release CCSDS 522.2-R-2, Mission Operations—Mission Data Product Distribution Services (Red Book, Issue 2) for CCSDS Agency review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Dear Tomaso,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Going back through my emails, I could not find any trace of exchanges with you with regard to the condition you had raised on the Mission Data Product Distribution Service.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Let me please start with apologizing for this oversight on our side and in case I have missed any emails.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">We have resolved the condition of Peter and have his agreement to move forward with the agency review.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">The point you had raised is very valid and needs better clarification, which we are happy to implement as below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Please let us know if the following implementation would address sufficiently the condition you had raised:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Add text to clarify
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">that only <b>the data type definitions, </b>
contained in section 4 are normative: The tables and any associated requirements. The UML diagrams are only informative.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remove comment relating to services - in an earlier version of the document the Information Model preceded the Service Specification but this was not edited.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Best Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Mehran (on behalf of the SM&C WG)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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