<font size=2 face="Arial">Dear Peter,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">David has gone through your comments and
has proposed dispositions in the attached files. Most of your points have
been accepted. 6 points have been labelled "to be discussed"
and have either a question or a comment associated.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">I would appreciate if you could go through
the proposed dispositions, preferably before the Pasadena meeting, so that
we could earmark some time there to go through any remaining issue face-to-face.
Unfortunately, David will not attend the meeting: nevertheless we could
arrange a splinter SM&C team who could meet with you and David (over
a WebEx) to discuss. For logistic reasons this would be best in the (early)
morning. Could you please identify in your agenda a slot for this next
week?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Many thanks</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Arial">__Mario</font>
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Shames, Peter
M (312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Mario.Merri@esa.int"
<Mario.Merri@esa.int>, </font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Cc:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"brigitte.behal@cnes.fr"
<brigitte.behal@cnes.fr>, "danford.s.smith@nasa.gov" <danford.s.smith@nasa.gov>,
"erwann.poupart@cnes.fr" <erwann.poupart@cnes.fr>, "Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int"
<Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int>, "Michael.Wendler@dlr.de" <Michael.Wendler@dlr.de>,
"roger.thompson@scisys.co.uk" <roger.thompson@scisys.co.uk>,
"Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk" <Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk>, "Stefan.Gaertner@dlr.de"
<Stefan.Gaertner@dlr.de>, David Feliot <david.feliot@scalagent.com></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">16/03/2015 16:04</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: [Moims-sc]
Space Packet binding</font>
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<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Dear Mario,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Sorry you are having problems with this.
The document is attached again here. It appears that there
was some problem with how I saved the doc, but I had a second copy with
all of the comments intact (see screen shot of the first such comment).</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Please ask me if anything is unclear.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Regards, Peter</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri"><b>From: </b>Mario Merri <</font><a href=mailto:Mario.Merri@esa.int><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Mario.Merri@esa.int</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">><b><br>
Date: </b>Monday, March 16, 2015 at 7:53 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <</font><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">><b><br>
Cc: </b>Brigitte Behal <</font><a href=mailto:Brigitte.Behal@cnes.fr><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Brigitte.Behal@cnes.fr</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
Dan Smith <</font><a href=mailto:danford.s.smith@nasa.gov><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>danford.s.smith@nasa.gov</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
"</font><a href=mailto:erwann.poupart@cnes.fr><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>erwann.poupart@cnes.fr</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">"
<</font><a href=mailto:erwann.poupart@cnes.fr><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>erwann.poupart@cnes.fr</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
"</font><a href=mailto:Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">"
<</font><a href=mailto:Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
"</font><a href=mailto:Michael.Wendler@dlr.de><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Michael.Wendler@dlr.de</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">"
<</font><a href=mailto:Michael.Wendler@dlr.de><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Michael.Wendler@dlr.de</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
Roger Thompson <</font><a href=mailto:Roger.Thompson@scisys.co.uk><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Roger.Thompson@scisys.co.uk</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
"</font><a href=mailto:Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">"
<</font><a href=mailto:Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
"</font><a href=mailto:Stefan.Gaertner@dlr.de><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Stefan.Gaertner@dlr.de</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">"
<</font><a href=mailto:Stefan.Gaertner@dlr.de><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>Stefan.Gaertner@dlr.de</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">>,
David Feliot <</font><a href=mailto:david.feliot@scalagent.com><font size=2 color=blue face="Calibri"><u>david.feliot@scalagent.com</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Calibri">><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [Moims-sc] Space Packet binding</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Dear Peter,</font><font size=2 face="Calibri">
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
we have tried to access your comments, but unfortunately the pdf does not
include any comment, despite it shows comment-holders. The commented YB
is instead OK. Could you please resend the pdf to this distribution list?</font><font size=2 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Many thanks,</font><font size=2 face="Calibri"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
__Mario</font><font size=1 color=#800080 face="sans-serif"><br>
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From: </font><a href=mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</u></font></a><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
To: </font><a href="mailto:moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org"><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org</u></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif">,
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Date: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">16/03/2015
13:36</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
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Space Packet binding</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
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This document is vastly improved beyond the original and does a credible
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and message formats to a concrete set of data types and SPP compliant message
formats. <br>
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There are, however, still a few loose ends that need to be tied down in
order to ensure interoperability. They are flagged in the document and
listed here: <br>
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1) The "mapping configuration parameter" set (Sec 2.4.2 &
Annex B) is a major element in interoperability, but it is listed as a
"managed parameter" handled by some unspecified out of band agreement.
Absent a way to acquire this key document interoperability is impossible.
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2) There are several issues in the text that must be corrected, such as
stating that the APID Qualifier, an integer field, is to include a "/"
character, the use of Packet Type" does not align with SPP defined
usage, the handling of security / authentication. <br>
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3) The handling of retransmission is left to "lower layers",
but many CCSDS space link protocol deployments do not include such features.
Is reliability, particularly of commanding, to be left to "lower layers",
i.e. "bottom up" or is it a requirement applied by MO operations,
top down? <br>
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4) The test report appears to be quite thorough, but one key element required
for interoperability, that pesky "mapping configuration parameter"
set, is not even mentioned. Also, the details of the test configuration
leave a lot to the imagination and it is not clear how anyone other than
those involved in the test could insert their own MAL / SPP component and
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