<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Préformaté HTML Car";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";}
tt
{mso-style-priority:99;
font-family:"Courier New";}
span.PrformatHTMLCar
{mso-style-name:"Préformaté HTML Car";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Préformaté HTML";
font-family:Consolas;}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="FR" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Mehran,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">what you propose seems fine by me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">our students will arrive in mid february.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">for the moment i only need to explain in a simple way how to define MO services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">what is necessary to provide, a sort of teaching exercise not so easy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">probably that i should use the camera service example<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">and also an aggregation like and action like example to explain to them how MO shall be used to dowlink parameter values<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">and to uplink commands.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">it is not so easy because with MO you have many ways to downlink collection of parameter values.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">for example we may imagine to define a specific MO composite equipment structure with a set of tensions, currents, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">that could be published and then received on ground to provide a Parameter service and do some checks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">or we may use aggregation service if we need the PUS like enable/disable operations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">they will also need to build the MO parameter and checks definitions, but we have no tool for the moment don't we ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">for the camera service i think that we have some example but is uptodate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">the general question, is the need of a tutorial to explain MO to people that don't know it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Erwann.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int [mailto:Mehran.Sarkarati@esa.int]
<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 2 octobre 2014 11:03<br>
<b>À :</b> Sam Cooper<br>
<b>Cc :</b> Poupart Erwann; Mario.Merri@esa.int; moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org; moims-sc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org; Jose.Luis.Feiteirinha@esa.int<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Moims-sc] RE: use of MO on Eye-Sat nanosatellite<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi Erwan,</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Yes. Iguassu (a Czeck company) is developing the editor. It is a graphical editor in Eclipse (very similar to the web services editor), where you specify the services, operations and data type
in table format and it creates the XML and the java skeleton code as well as the document draft.</span>
<br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The editor is almost finished and it looks good. We will have a review in 27 October and I will give a demo in London. I will send you the documents (e.g. Software User Manual) mid October and
any feedback would be more than welcome.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I suggest, we organise a demo the latest delivery via web-ex before the review, so that we can feedback your input to the company for their final delivery. If you are interested/available, please
let us know and Jose (in cc) can organise the demo.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The goal is to put in GitHub under ESA public license as open source. However this will take a bit of time (for scanning the code and going through the approval cycle). How urgently do you need
it, if you cannot wait till say Jan 2015, I can investigate if we can provide you a specific license (but this will be some organisational work for me :-(</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Mehran</span> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"Sam Cooper" <<a href="mailto:Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk">Sam.Cooper@scisys.co.uk</a>></span>
<br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"Poupart Erwann" <<a href="mailto:Erwann.Poupart@cnes.fr">Erwann.Poupart@cnes.fr</a>>, <<a href="mailto:moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>,
</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:Mario.Merri@esa.int">Mario.Merri@esa.int</a></span>
<br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">02/10/2014 10:39</span>
<br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[Moims-sc] RE: use of MO on Eye-Sat nanosatellite</span>
<br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Sent by: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:moims-sc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-sc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">
<hr size="2" width="100%" noshade="" style="color:#ACA899" align="center">
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">Hi Erwann,</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">That sounds very exciting news!
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#004080">J</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">ESA was running a project with another company to produce an MO service editor, I don’t know much more about it than that but I think Mehran is involved with it somehow. Mehran?</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">There is no need for you to create an account on GitHub if you just want to download the ESA OSS code, it’s all publicly available and viewable:</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<a href="https://github.com/esa"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">https://github.com/esa</span></a>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">If you are after specific parts of the ESA Java stack we have also pushed pre-built versions of these to Maven Central now, so you can pull them in automatically using Maven:</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<a href="http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Cg%3A%20int.esa.ccsds.mo"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Cg%3A%20int.esa.ccsds.mo</span></a>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">I expect to provide to the working group the next draft Red release of the Common services, used as a baseline for prototyping, at the end of October.</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">Cheers,</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080">Sam.</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#004080"> </span> <br>
<b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Poupart Erwann [</span><a href="mailto:Erwann.Poupart@cnes.fr"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">mailto:Erwann.Poupart@cnes.fr</span></a><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 01 October 2014 14:07<b><br>
To:</b> <a href="mailto:moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org</a>; Sam Cooper<b><br>
Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Mario.Merri@esa.int">Mario.Merri@esa.int</a><b><br>
Subject:</b> use of MO on Eye-Sat nanosatellite</span> <br>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi all,</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">* first, very good news, MO services may be used from ground to space on this student nanosatellite project followed by CNES.</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">if i'm correct Sam, you have some editor tool to build MO xml service definitions ?</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">if yes, is it possible to provide this xml MO editor in the context fo this project ?</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">could you also provide an count on github for me to be able to have access to the opensource repository ?</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">* an another point: when do you think that you can provide the Common Blue Book necessary to start the prototyping exercise between CNES and ESA ?</span>
<br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best Regards,</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Erwann.</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">SCISYS UK Limited. Registered in England and Wales No. 4373530.</span>
<br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Registered Office: Methuen Park, Chippenham, Wiltshire SN14 0GB, UK.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green">Before printing, please think about the environment.</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">_______________________________________________</span></tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
<tt>Moims-sc mailing list</tt><br>
<tt><a href="mailto:Moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org">Moims-sc@mailman.ccsds.org</a></tt><br>
</span><a href="http://mailman.ccsds.org/mailman/listinfo/moims-sc"><tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">http://mailman.ccsds.org/mailman/listinfo/moims-sc</span></tt></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee or addressees only.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>The unauthorised disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either in whole or in part) of its<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>content is not permitted.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Emails can be altered and their integrity cannot be guaranteed by the sender.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Please consider the environment before printing this email.<o:p></o:p></pre>
</div>
</body>
</html>