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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">You are right. Highlighted point is true... and there was also a significant component of misunderstanding by the populace that contributed to the trouble. We could experience that regardless
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Daniel Oltrogge <dan@comspoc.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:44 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>David Berry <david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov>, "moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org" <moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [EXTERNAL] [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] Navigation Functions Message draft Concept Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Forgot to add, I think that the incorporation of a your much-beloved “Frankenstein” terminology into the document can adversely predispose CCSDS management against it, and I don’t see that such gains us anything.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Despite what Gene Wilder might suggest, <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">
Frankenstein was a monster that caused trouble.</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> Daniel Oltrogge
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 18, 2023 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Berry, David S (US 3920) <david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov>; moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXTERNAL] [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] Navigation Functions Message draft Concept Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">David – <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I finally got enough time to review your write-up on the Navigation Functions Message concept, and I think it is a very good start.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You did a good job of capturing the relevant pros and cons of the concept, though I believe that there are also aspects of “enforced harmonization”, message cross-consistency, and much less work load on the part of both the standards development
effort as well as testing (given that once you implement the NFM and build unit tests for it, none of that needs to be
<b>coded up or tested</b> for any new message sub-elements). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As we add more messages (LDM, FDM, …?), these resource savings will scale accordingly - - at least linearly, but likely exponentially as we no longer have to fight to maintain consistency between “N” standards.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks and great job,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> Berry, David S (US 3920) <<a href="mailto:david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov">david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 12, 2023 7:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniel Oltrogge <<a href="mailto:dan@comspoc.com">dan@comspoc.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] Navigation Functions Message draft Concept Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">Dan: Thanks for re-sending.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">For All: My thought was that there would be comments on this initial version and I would update the draft before discussing in a meeting, but Dan has a good idea for the August 2 agenda...
some folks may not be able to participate in that meeting, but can provide written comments/suggestions. Also note that this is not the final word either... the basic idea of a Concept Paper is to convince the CCSDS Management Council to allow us to create
an official project on which to spend Agency resources. That's when the real work can start. Until then, we can just wish.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">MOIMS-NAV-EXEC <<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of "<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Daniel Oltrogge <<a href="mailto:dan@comspoc.com">dan@comspoc.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 6:44 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] Navigation Functions Message draft Concept Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s David’s draft Concept Paper.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would be good to devote a chunk of time in our next meeting to walk through this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> MOIMS-NAV-EXEC <<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Berry, David S (US 3920) via MOIMS-NAV-EXEC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 7, 2023 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] Notes and Action Items from Telecon 2023-06-07<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">All:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">Attached are notes from today's telecon, and updated action items.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">Also, for your review and comment, a draft Concept Paper (with change tracking active) for the "Navigation Functions Message" (aka "The Super Message", "The Navigation Frankenstein Message",
"The Universal Modular Message", etc.).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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