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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It seems that the JPL firewall has blocked some of the files that I have sent in the recent pass.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Following David’s suggestion, I have put them in the CWE server. All together as I have not permissions to create folders. I have also added the two e-mails in word format
with the explanations and details provided at the time I sent them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have also added two zip files in case you want to download the two complete sets (MTG general and general example) at once.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The last exchange with Alain in the requirements and ideas document I have also uploaded separately.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The link address:
<a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fmoims%2Fdocs%2FMOIMS-NAV%2FDraft%20Documents%2FNavigation%20Events%20Message%20%28NEM%29">
https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fmoims%2Fdocs%2FMOIMS-NAV%2FDraft%20Documents%2FNavigation%20Events%20Message%20%28NEM%29</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Fran
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Berry, David S (3920) [mailto:David.S.Berry@jpl.nasa.gov]
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<b>Sent:</b> lunes, 27 de agosto de 2018 17:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Fran Martínez Fadrique <fmartinez@gmv.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] [Attachment Blocked]: RE: NEM - thoughts and more<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">Hi Fran: The zip file was removed by JPL's email system... maybe upload to this folder on the CWE and let people know where to find it?
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwe.ccsds.org_moims_docs_Forms_AllItems.aspx-3FRootFolder-3D-252Fmoims-252Fdocs-252FMOIMS-252DNAV-252FDraft-2520Documents-252FNavigation-2520Events-2520Message-2520-2528NEM-2529-26FolderCTID-3D0x012000C8EEDFBFAD59894AB84FF1AF9485D0AB-26View-3D-257B72CC1C3E-252DEFA9-252D498B-252DBEA5-252DC88E7DEE0C54-257D&d=DwMGaQ&c=CIoxZ4z5BqFvKvSGFOTo726QZIiNTc_M9CmngT-Pla4&r=69qp-jsDq9EghtBhB0rS6nJGCagoWLwIRbKxUqz3GCA&m=_l1OKTSCzQWrAK8qTpcYoaNOh2Mz8K6n-5Glm5y95ww&s=vzrDlsI5q2wRcKb7n_oqY1WIvsir45mNjxLC9QHiGn0&e=">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier">David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">MOIMS-NAV-EXEC <<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of Fran Martínez Fadrique <<a href="mailto:fmartinez@gmv.com">fmartinez@gmv.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, August 27, 2018 at 6:28 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Oltrogge, Daniel" <<a href="mailto:doltrogge@agi.com">doltrogge@agi.com</a>>, Lamy Alain <<a href="mailto:Alain.Lamy@cnes.fr">Alain.Lamy@cnes.fr</a>>, "<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] [Attachment Blocked]: RE: NEM - thoughts and more<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Hi Dan.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Some comments to yours below (implementation related). Alain can possibly provide additional feedback on the events design part. My comments in
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">green</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Fran</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> MOIMS-NAV-EXEC [<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Oltrogge, Daniel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> lunes, 27 de agosto de 2018 14:48<br>
<b>To:</b> Lamy Alain <<a href="mailto:Alain.Lamy@cnes.fr">Alain.Lamy@cnes.fr</a>>;
<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] NEM - thoughts and more<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">A few comments to the NEM and related questions:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Just to reinforce, the NEM should accommodate events consisting of interaction between multiple satellites and multiple ground stations and/or a combination of both. Things like cross-links
or ground-space-space-ground should be accommodated if possible. I’m not sure what the best way to accommodate this is, though. One could envision having a keyword which reflects the entire link (JSC_SAT1_SAT1_ESA) or list the composition of the link, for
example. For us to discuss.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">This can be easily implemented through the parameters within the event. AT the moment there is no limitation for this. It will depend how the final standard describes the
definition of the events if we (after discussions) want to limit the events or parameters scope.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">The difference between version 1 and 2 may depend on whether we foresee having more than one event contained in the NEM.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">In one of my previous e-mails (attached; explanatory details in it) I proposed an alternative layout (I assume that you refer to version 1 and version 2 in section 4.3)
that would not require quotes, it is probably closer to the KVN philosophy and imposes no limitations to the number of parameters. Alain’s cases follow with my KVN proposal</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">EVENT_START</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">NAME = TRUE_ANOMALY
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">EPOCH = 2018-04-11T00:00:10
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">VALUE = 45 [deg]
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">EVENT_STOP</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:FR"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">EVENT = 2018-04-11T00:00:10 TRUE_ANOMALY</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:70.8pt;text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">value = 45 [deg]</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">2018-04-11T00:00:10 TRUE_ANOMALY 45
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">2018-04-11T00:00:10 GROUND_STATION_AOS<b> 10
</b>Kourou </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">EVENT = 2018-04-11T00:00:10 TRUE_ANOMALY</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">value = 45 [deg]</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">EVENT = 2018-04-11T00:00:10 STATION_AOS</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">station = Kourou</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">elevation = 10 [deg]</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">In my opinion, strings in version 2 would have to be “” delimited.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">Not needed in my proposed approach</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I disagree that an event shouldn’t have a duration associated with it. While I do agree that an event should be instantaneous, I only view the duration as associated metadata that can
accompany it, rather than requiring two separate NEMs, for example.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">For the needed cases, the user is free to associated a parameter ‘duration’ to which the relevant interpretation can be also associated. So, compatible with CSS, yet fulfilling
user’s wishes.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">EVENT = 2018-04-11T00:00:10 ECLIPSE_START</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">body = Moon</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:106.2pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#00B050;mso-fareast-language:FR">duration = 323 [s]</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Dan</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Daniel L. Oltrogge</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Director, Center for Space Standards and Innovation</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Analytical Graphics, Incorporated</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Voice: 719-482-4552
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;color:#1F497D">҉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"> E-mail:
<a href="mailto:oltrogge@agi.com">oltrogge@agi.com</a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> MOIMS-NAV-EXEC <<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lamy Alain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 Aug 2018 11:34<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] NEM - thoughts and more<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR">Hi everyone, </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This is a document I was supposed to send a few months ago (action item #33).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I send it as it is, in case some of you have time to read it and think about it.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Frank and Fran have sent lots of ideas (and more than ideas), that I have only partially taken into account.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So there is much more do do. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This document is just the beginning. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Alain<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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