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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alexandru is correct - - I’m not seeing the need for those, and fast-forwarding to a possible future with the NFM concept, I only see the need for start/stops
 on each individual “building block” component.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Daniel L. Oltrogge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">SDC Program Manager & Senior Research Astrodynamicist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Center for Space Standards and Innovation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Analytical Graphics Incorporated<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Voice: 719-482-4552; E-mail: oltrogge@agi.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> MOIMS-NAV-EXEC [mailto:moims-nav-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Berry, David S (3920) <david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc:</b> moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MOIMS-NAV-EXEC] RDM XML Material<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi David,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thank you for the XML materials; I've already included them (and Dale's comments) in the document.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">One quick comment on META_SART/_STOP and DATA_START/_STOP keywords: the messages that are fully KVN (marked in green in the table below - same as the RDM) do not use them; the messages where the
 data section uses some other format generally do (marked in orange). I am OK with including them, but I'm sure Daniel will point out they make the RDM too verbose.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">TDM</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best regards</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Alexandru Mancas</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Berry, David S (3920)" <<a href="mailto:david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov">david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int">Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int">Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:Tim.Flohrer@esa.int">Tim.Flohrer@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Tim.Flohrer@esa.int">Tim.Flohrer@esa.int</a>>,
 "<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-nav-exec@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">10/07/2017 02:17</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">RDM XML Material</span>
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<span style="font-family:Courier">Alexandru:</span> <br>
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<span style="font-family:Courier">I have attached XML-related material, per my action item. You can incorporate this into the next version of the RDM White Book. I tried to make it correspond to the chapters of your document so the section numbering would match,
 but there is one difference, specifically, you allocate the XML material only to section 4.4, whereas I separated things a bit more. Feel free to re-arrange the ordering of the material so it makes sense to you.</span>
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<span style="font-family:Courier">I've also attached the RDM XML schema and test cases (based on your document Annex C) so you can look it over... it won't work by itself to validate an RDM message in XML format because there is an integrated schema set associated
 with the CCSDS Navigation WG standards, and some of the data structures are in common schemas, and I've got some other changes I need to make. The schema is not yet on the SANA Registry, but will be soon (at least that's my plan).</span>
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<span style="font-family:Courier">Let me know when you have questions...</span> <br>
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<span style="font-family:Courier">Regards,</span> <br>
<span style="font-family:Courier">David</span> <br>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int">Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int">Alexandru.Mancas@esa.int</a>><b><br>
Date: </b>Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 12:06 AM<b><br>
To: </b>"Berry, David S (3920)" <<a href="mailto:david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov">david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><b><br>
Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:Tim.Flohrer@esa.int">Tim.Flohrer@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Tim.Flohrer@esa.int">Tim.Flohrer@esa.int</a>><b><br>
Subject: </b>[CCSDS] RDM v4 draft</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear David,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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I attached the latest RDM White Book draft (v4). Please let me know if you need any input for the XML section and how you wish to proceed with the WG review process.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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I did my best to incorporate all the comments I received and fix all issues that would have been identified by the CCSDS Technical Editor.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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