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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>You could change “Implementation of ISO comments” to “Awaiting publication by CCSDS and ISO”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>..David<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Fischer via MOIMS-DAI<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 12, 2024 8:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Daniel Fischer <Daniel.Fischer@esa.int><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Notes from this week's meet and agenda for Washington<br><b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Could you kindly check if the summary I have for DAI in the MOIMS plenary presentation is accurate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I would need an answer asap.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span></u></b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>ESA – European Space Agency</span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><br>Daniel Fischer </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>I</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> Head of Ground Segment System and Cybersecurity Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Ground Segment Engineering and Innovation Department</span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Directorate of Operations</span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>ESOC </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>I</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> Robert-Bosch-Str. 5, 64293 Darmstadt, Germany<br>Tel: +49 6151 902718</span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><a href="mailto:Daniel.Fischer@esa.int"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Daniel.Fischer@esa.int</span></a> </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>I</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:gray;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> <a href="http://www.esa.int/"><span style='color:blue'>www.esa.int</span></a></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Giaretta via MOIMS-DAI<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 11, 2024 12:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> MOIMS-DAI List <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:david@giaretta.org">david@giaretta.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Moims-dai] Notes from this week's meet and agenda for Washington<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The draft agenda for the Washington meeting is available at <a href="https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwe.ccsds.org%2Fmoims%2Fdocs%2FMOIMS-DAI%2FMeeting%2520Materials%2520and%2520Minutes%2F2024-04-Washington-DC%2FCCSDS%2520MOIMS-DAI%2520Spring%25202024%2520Agenda.docx%3Fd%3Dw40928681dced4a5a84312c7224bc1757&data=05%7C02%7Cdaniel.fischer%40esa.int%7Ccae10af8ad0d4512fe8d08dc5a1548c8%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1%7C638484294677221492%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KTrKiuXY2GKyEk3Sbs9WyYtXuPKQsfXtImdygIl0NEU%3D&reserved=0">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Meeting%20Materials%20and%20Minutes/2024-04-Washington-DC/CCSDS%20MOIMS-DAI%20Spring%202024%20Agenda.docx?d=w40928681dced4a5a84312c7224bc1757</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Please let me know what alterations are needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I apologise that I will not be able to attend in person because we are moving house and there are a lot of things to be done, however I should be able to join the meetings virtually all day – I have the morning to do moving stuff because of the time difference in the UK!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>This week we discussed some of the remaining RIDS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><a href="https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Freview.oais.info%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D387&data=05%7C02%7Cdaniel.fischer%40esa.int%7Ccae10af8ad0d4512fe8d08dc5a1548c8%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1%7C638484294677239944%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TcbxqplG2mzgg0i5V6X9uqMaCAtPhsR2fVzw%2BkGQS4o%3D&reserved=0">http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=387</a> - agree that this is an OK summary of changes<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Freview.oais.info%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D388&data=05%7C02%7Cdaniel.fischer%40esa.int%7Ccae10af8ad0d4512fe8d08dc5a1548c8%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1%7C638484294677253719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BoZmLgPIZkRtJ%2B5%2BV28ZX%2BFpBHIQxy3E7eSmupUvkGM%3D&reserved=0">http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=388</a> – agree that this is an OK summary of changes<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><a href="https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Freview.oais.info%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D349&data=05%7C02%7Cdaniel.fischer%40esa.int%7Ccae10af8ad0d4512fe8d08dc5a1548c8%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1%7C638484294677265955%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=a6n9VeciLEj4cj%2BEoQ4x%2FZkNio8uLZGv3zL8EOzvQeM%3D&reserved=0">http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=349</a> – need input from JGG<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>an old one we need to resolve <a href="https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Freview.oais.info%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D389&data=05%7C02%7Cdaniel.fischer%40esa.int%7Ccae10af8ad0d4512fe8d08dc5a1548c8%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1%7C638484294677274493%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2PNN47cHqhvONuxhmvU5OoJsdaUoKW4YTS%2B602EsiW8%3D&reserved=0">http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=389</a> - some duplication must be sorted out and gives us an opportunity to add an important missing metric. </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></li><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=square><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6'><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>We will close this next week. Please provide any inputs.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Other points:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>ESA draft OAIS-IF YB should available next week<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>ESA feedback on OAIS-IF BB depends on availability of Massimo, the ESA developer, but should be soon.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I have proposed a JSON schema for the Information Packages, which seems to validate against the example IPs and AIP in the BB. This allows the BB to be more precise, but no changes needed in existing software which were based on those examples.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>One extra thing that was added, but not shown in those examples is the encoding of embedded binary objects. This makes the JSON able to point to an external file, or to an internal part of the JSON (using JSONPath) or embed a binary object in the JSON – just as XFDU allows. The tricky point is that JSON must be text (actually UTF-8) for interchanges between different systems (<a href="https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Frfc%2Fpdfrfc%2Frfc8259.txt.pdf&data=05%7C02%7Cdaniel.fischer%40esa.int%7Ccae10af8ad0d4512fe8d08dc5a1548c8%7C9a5cacd02bef4dd7ac5c7ebe1f54f495%7C0%7C1%7C638484294677281724%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=tMVyg18pRAZ33Kzfok5EIfZQJQnv2JvRncRwZkM6tl8%3D&reserved=0">https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/pdfrfc/rfc8259.txt.pdf</a>), so binary files must be encoded appropriately. The actual encoding should be part of the RepInfo.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Terry raised the point that binary files that were not 8-bit multiples could be a problem. My assumption is that padding would solve this, with appropriate RepInfo, but others should think about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>..Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>..David<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>