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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m concerned that we didn’t have participation at the Huntsville meeting and we may not have a meeting now in the Hague.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think we need the international face-to-face meetings to actually make progress.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If we don’t meet, this session will become like just another weekly meeting, perhaps with a couple extra sessions that week.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>That’s pretty much what happened since COVID.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think it presents a poor appearance to CCSDS management about whether we are a serious WG. <br>I think our poor attendance at Huntsville already did that.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Also it begins to get into tit for tat retaliations where US doesn’t attend a meeting then ESA doesn’t approve travel for the next one. But we are already stuck in that situation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Will there be attendance at the next US meeting where ever that will be?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Peace, joy, and prosperity,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-JOhn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Giaretta via MOIMS-DAI<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 1, 2023 5:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> MOIMS-DAI List <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Cc:</b> david@giaretta.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Moims-dai] Meeting in The Hague - in-person or by video<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I gather that at least a few people (John, Mike and maybe Roberta) plan to be in The Hague in November. But Steve (and other JPL people) have had their travel cancelled, so he cannot be there.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My concern is that since the weekly meetings are largely discussions between Steve and I, I am not sure what we will be able to do at the November meeting that we will not be able to do via video-meetings. Peter Shames suggested that WGs could video meet with JPL folk at 1400 – 1800 PM CET daily over that period.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In other words, I don’t know whether it is worth the expenditure of time and money for me, or anyone, to travel to The Hague – and stay, eat etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Personally, I’d rather do daily extended video meetings, much as I like seeing people in person.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>..David <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>