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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the draft David!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I think it is important to tell the digital preservation communities, why the delay has been this long, - since it also explains that there are better hope for final release this time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I will do my best to join the meeting tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best regards, Eld<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:11.0pt"> MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lin, Dawei (NIH/NIAID) [E] via MOIMS-DAI<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 17, 2023 12:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lin, Dawei (NIH/NIAID) [E] <dawei.lin@nih.gov><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft message about OAIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi David,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It's great news to hear that the recent updates to OAIS will soon be incorporated into ISO. I recommend that you share this news with the RDA (Research Data Alliance)/WDS (World Data System) Interest Group
on the certification of Digital Repositories, of which you're a member. It's important to inform the group that a new ISO update is on the way, though it's unnecessary to provide all the details of the delay. However, it would be helpful to mention that the
new ISO standard is based on the 2020 version of the document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dawei<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dr. Dawei Lin, Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Associate Director for Bioinformatics and Senior Advisor to the Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Cell: 301-312-3986<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of Bruce AMBACHER via MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 1:45 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a> <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Bruce AMBACHER <<a href="mailto:bambacher@verizon.net">bambacher@verizon.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Moims-dai] Draft message about OAIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I agree with Mark on most of his comments. It is very important to target this to the proper audiences. I see nothing regarding national standard bodies as one audience. Their understanding
of ISO procedures should be above average and they can shape/smooth this transition.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">You have CCSDS functioning as the editor of OAIS when its role is much larger. It also adjudicates all comments received. Tie the process to the ISO structure through SC20 TC 13 (I
think)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Do you need to provide all of the ISO-CCSDS history? It may be better to just outline the relationship and procedures going forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Mark is correct to link any comments to a site, formats nd procedures used in the past. This will place the changes in a familiar process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">More to say as we discuss this tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Mark Conrad via MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
To: MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
Cc: Mark Conrad <<a href="mailto:conradsireland@gmail.com">conradsireland@gmail.com</a>><br>
Sent: Sun, Apr 16, 2023 4:03 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Moims-dai] Draft message about OAIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi David,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks for putting this together. I have a few questions and then some
</span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">comments</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> within the text.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">1. Who is the target audience for this message?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">2. What lists will it be sent to?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">3. Do you really want people joining the DAI list just to comment on the draft? Won't this make internal DAI conversations more difficult? Wouldn't it be better to refer folks to
the <a href="http://review.oasis.info/" target="_blank">review.oasis.info</a> site or set up a separate list for comments?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">4. What is the significance of the new version of OAIS going through the ISO fast-track process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">5.If the primary audience for this message is folks who may want to comment on the new draft, I am not sure how helpful all of the details about CCSDS and ISO processes will be. Why
not just issue a new call for comments on the latest CCSDS draft?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">See comments below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">News
</span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">on the Reference Model for an Open Archival Information System (OAIS)</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> and the
</span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">International Organization for Standardization (ISO)</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">This message is to provide an update on the revision of OAIS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">OAIS is edited within
</span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">the Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems (CCSDS),</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> taking on board the widest possible range of suggested changes.
What happened in the past </span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">is that once CCSDS completes its editing the document</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> then goes through
</span><b><s><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">into</span></s></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> the ISO review process immediately. Care has been taken to ensure that the CCSDS and ISO versions are identical.
The ISO version in the past was simply the CCSDS version with an ISO cover sheet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">However, the new version of OAIS, which went through a long review process in CCSDS, has not yet gone into ISO. This is because the processes in ISO and between ISO and CCSDS changed.
This has meant that the route to ISO has been stalled for the past year. The good news is that the issues with the CCSDS to ISO process have now been resolved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The new CCSDS version of OAIS will go into ISO at the start of June.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The reason for this slight delay from now to June is as follows.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The ISO processes have continued and the 2012 version of OAIS (</span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">which was renewed without change in 2017) </span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">is
undergoing its automatic periodic ISO review which ends in the first week of June. We must wait for that process to end before submitting the new CCSDS version through the ISO fast-track process. It would therefore make sense for people to comment on the new
CCSDS version in order to avoid going through the changes resolved previously – details at <a href="http://review.oais.info/" target="_blank">http://review.oais.info</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The changed ISO processes mean that there may be some typesetting changes going through the ISO system, and of course there may be some changes arising from the ISO review itself.
We will ensure that the published CCSDS and ISO versions have identical content.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The new CCSDS version of OAIS, which will go into ISO, is available at <a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf" target="_blank">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf</a> and <a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx" target="_blank">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx</a>.
These are in A4 page size rather than Letter</span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">. This is</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">
</span><b><s><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F">as</span></s></b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> required by ISO. Remember the document may change slightly through the ISO review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Since this message is going to many email lists, if there are any questions on this, it would help if they are copied to the DAI mailing list, which may be joined at <a href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai" target="_blank">https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">CCSDS DAI Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">My two cents,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Mark Conrad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 6:33 AM David Giaretta via MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">At the last DAI meeting I took an action to draft a message which we could post on various email lists to explain what has been happening to OAIS.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Comments please.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">..David</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">- - - -</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">News on OAIS and ISO</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">This message is to provide an update on the revision of OAIS.
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">OAIS is edited within CCSDS, taking on board the widest possible range of suggested changes. What happened in the past is that it then goes through into the ISO review process immediately.
Care has been taken to ensure that the CCSDS and ISO versions are identical. The ISO version in the past was simply the CCSDS version with an ISO cover sheet.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">However, the new version of OAIS, which went through a long review process in CCSDS, has not yet gone into ISO. This is because the processes in ISO and between ISO and CCSDS changed.
This has meant that the route to ISO has been stalled for the past year. The good news is that the issues with the CCSDS to ISO process have now been resolved.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The new CCSDS version of OAIS will go into ISO at the start of June.
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The reason for this slight delay from now to June is as follows.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The ISO processes have continued and the 2012 version of OAIS is undergoing its automatic periodic ISO review which ends in the first week of June. We must wait for that process to
end before submitting the new CCSDS version through the ISO fast-track process. It would therefore make sense for people to comment on the new CCSDS version in order to avoid going through the changes resolved previously – details at
<a href="http://review.oais.info/" target="_blank">http://review.oais.info</a>. </span>
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The changed ISO processes mean that there may be some typesetting changes going through the ISO system, and of course there may be some changes arising from the ISO review itself.
We will ensure that the published CCSDS and ISO versions have identical content.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The new CCSDS version of OAIS, which will go into ISO, is available at
<a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf" target="_blank">
https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf</a> and
<a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx" target="_blank">
https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx</a>. These are in A4 page size rather than Letter, as required by ISO. Remember the document may change slightly through the ISO review.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Since this message is going to many email lists, if there are any questions on this, it would help if they are copied to the DAI mailing list, which may be joined at
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