<div style="color:black;font: 10pt arial;">I agree with Mark on most of his comments. It is very important to target this to the proper audiences. I see nothing regarding national standard bodies as one audience. Their understanding of ISO procedures should be above average and they can shape/smooth this transition.
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<div>You have CCSDS functioning as the editor of OAIS when its role is much larger. It also adjudicates all comments received. Tie the process to the ISO structure through SC20 TC 13 (I think)</div>
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<div>Do you need to provide all of the ISO-CCSDS history? It may be better to just outline the relationship and procedures going forward.</div>
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<div>Mark is correct to link any comments to a site, formats nd procedures used in the past. This will place the changes in a familiar process.</div>
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<div>More to say as we discuss this tomorrow.<br>
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From: Mark Conrad via MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
To: MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
Cc: Mark Conrad <conradsireland@gmail.com><br>
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Subject: Re: [Moims-dai] Draft message about OAIS<br>
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<div>Thanks for putting this together. I have a few questions and then some <b style=""><font color="#6aa84f">comments</font></b> within the text.</div>
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<div>1. Who is the target audience for this message?</div>
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<div>2. What lists will it be sent to?</div>
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<div>3. Do you really want people joining the DAI list just to comment on the draft? Won't this make internal DAI conversations more difficult? Wouldn't it be better to refer folks to the <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://review.oasis.info/">review.oasis.info</a> site or set up a separate list for comments?</div>
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<div>4. What is the significance of the new version of OAIS going through the ISO fast-track process?</div>
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<div>5.If the primary audience for this message is folks who may want to comment on the new draft, I am not sure how helpful all of the details about CCSDS and ISO processes will be. Why not just issue a new call for comments on the latest CCSDS draft?</div>
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<div>See comments below:</div>
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<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">News <b><font color="#6aa84f">on the Reference Model for an Open Archival Information System (OAIS)</font></b> and the <b><font color="#6aa84f">International Organization for Standardization (ISO)</font></b><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This message is to provide an update on the revision of OAIS.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">OAIS is edited within <b><font color="#6aa84f">the Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems (CCSDS),</font></b> taking on board the widest possible range of suggested changes. What happened in the past <b><font color="#6aa84f">is that once CCSDS completes its editing the document</font></b> then goes through <strike><b><font color="#6aa84f">into</font></b></strike> the ISO review process immediately. Care has been taken to ensure that the CCSDS and ISO versions are identical. The ISO version in the past was simply the CCSDS version with an ISO cover sheet.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">However, the new version of OAIS, which went through a long review process in CCSDS, has not yet gone into ISO. This is because the processes in ISO and between ISO and CCSDS changed. This has meant that the route to ISO has been stalled for the past year. The good news is that the issues with the CCSDS to ISO process have now been resolved.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The new CCSDS version of OAIS will go into ISO at the start of June.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The reason for this slight delay from now to June is as follows.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The ISO processes have continued and the 2012 version of OAIS (<font color="#6aa84f"><b>which was renewed without change in 2017) </b></font>is undergoing its automatic periodic ISO review which ends in the first week of June. We must wait for that process to end before submitting the new CCSDS version through the ISO fast-track process. It would therefore make sense for people to comment on the new CCSDS version in order to avoid going through the changes resolved previously – details at <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://review.oais.info/">http://review.oais.info</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The changed ISO processes mean that there may be some typesetting changes going through the ISO system, and of course there may be some changes arising from the ISO review itself. We will ensure that the published CCSDS and ISO versions have identical content.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The new CCSDS version of OAIS, which will go into ISO, is available at <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf</a> and <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx</a>. These are in A4 page size rather than Letter<b><font color="#6aa84f">. This is</font></b> <strike><b><font color="#6aa84f">as</font></b></strike> required by ISO. Remember the document may change slightly through the ISO review.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Since this message is going to many email lists, if there are any questions on this, it would help if they are copied to the DAI mailing list, which may be joined at <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai">https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai</a><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My two cents,</span></div>
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<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">At the last DAI meeting I took an action to draft a message which we could post on various email lists to explain what has been happening to OAIS.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Comments please.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">..David<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">News on OAIS and ISO<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This message is to provide an update on the revision of OAIS. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">OAIS is edited within CCSDS, taking on board the widest possible range of suggested changes. What happened in the past is that it then goes through into the ISO review process immediately. Care has been taken to ensure that the CCSDS and ISO versions are identical. The ISO version in the past was simply the CCSDS version with an ISO cover sheet.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">However, the new version of OAIS, which went through a long review process in CCSDS, has not yet gone into ISO. This is because the processes in ISO and between ISO and CCSDS changed. This has meant that the route to ISO has been stalled for the past year. The good news is that the issues with the CCSDS to ISO process have now been resolved.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The new CCSDS version of OAIS will go into ISO at the start of June. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The reason for this slight delay from now to June is as follows.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The ISO processes have continued and the 2012 version of OAIS is undergoing its automatic periodic ISO review which ends in the first week of June. We must wait for that process to end before submitting the new CCSDS version through the ISO fast-track process. It would therefore make sense for people to comment on the new CCSDS version in order to avoid going through the changes resolved previously – details at <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://review.oais.info/">http://review.oais.info</a>. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The changed ISO processes mean that there may be some typesetting changes going through the ISO system, and of course there may be some changes arising from the ISO review itself. We will ensure that the published CCSDS and ISO versions have identical content.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The new CCSDS version of OAIS, which will go into ISO, is available at <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.pdf</a> and <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Draft%20Documents/OAIS%20v3/650x0m3-A4.docx</a>. These are in A4 page size rather than Letter, as required by ISO. Remember the document may change slightly through the ISO review.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Since this message is going to many email lists, if there are any questions on this, it would help if they are copied to the DAI mailing list, which may be joined at <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai">https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai</a> <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv7412213842MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">CCSDS DAI Working Group<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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