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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A couple of clarifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>“The basic scenario was the deployment approach…”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Should be “The basic scenario was the design approach…”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The BB will define the interfaces and protocols and the GB will describe a number of deployment options.</span><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> <span style='color:#C00000'>“a</span></span><span style='color:#C00000'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>graphic that showed *<b>many</b>* users would easily illustrate…”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Should be “a graphic that showed even 2 users and 2 archives and would easily illustrate…”</span><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>..David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>kearneysolutions@gmail.com<br><b>Sent:</b> 19 October 2021 18:05<br><b>To:</b> 'MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability' <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> [Moims-dai] Deployment options discussion from the last telecon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Just a quick recap of what (I think) we discussed today. You might refer to the PPT that was sent with the email below last Thursday.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>David’s point: Nothing significant has changed. The basic scenario was the deployment approach we’ve been talking about all along. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Mike’s understanding: There was general agreement that our normative standards would stick with only the Basic Scenario as far as deployment. Our informative documents might discuss that Scenarios 1, 2, 3, or 4 might be implemented, but they would not be able to cite compliance or conformance with OAIS-IF. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Steve had concerns about ground-ruling out Scenario 4 (chart 3), because PDS has some approaches where the archive provides tools and APIs to users that could be interpreted as supporting Scenario 4. That generated a discussion about “ownership” or “provision” being on the archive side vs. the user side, which is a slightly different topic than the location or deployment of the software being on the archive side vs. the user side. Additionally the introduction of things being provided by a 3<sup>rd</sup>-party source further complicated the concept. This may warrant further discussion. However, Steve’s concerns were somewhat abated when we discussed chart 7. Bottom line is, I think, that the understanding above still holds… Normative documents won’t address scenarios 1, 2, 3, or 4, and implementation of those scenarios are not considered compliant with OAIS-IF. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Mike went on to explain how the scenarios on charts 4 and 5 illustrated “broken interoperability.” No one disagreed with this, though David’s concern with the four deployment scenarios was more related to implementation concerns. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Due to time constraints, we didn’t have time for a good discussion of charts 6 and 7, though they were well received. Mike related a discussion with Vint Cerf about his TCP/IP history, and advocated that the last option on the right side of chart 7 (only interace 2 exposed) was a “TCP/IP-like approach” where the protocol across the comm interface was the main focus, and perhaps should be our first (and most important) effort. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>David also advocated that a graphic that showed *<b>many</b>* users would easily illustrate that the Basic Scenario (perhaps called the “baseline scenario?”) was the only really viable scenario. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Probably, more discussion of the “native” adapter scenarios on chart 7 warrant more discussion at some future telecon. Also, I think that David’s topic of JAR files as generic adapters warrants more discussion. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Those are the summary minutes as I perceived from today’s telecon. Corrections and additions are welcome from anyone. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'> -=- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'>Mike Kearney</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'>Huntsville, Alabama, USA <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> <a href="mailto:kearneysolutions@gmail.com">kearneysolutions@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:kearneysolutions@gmail.com">kearneysolutions@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability' <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Deployment options topic for the next telecon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>In the agenda (below) for the 19<sup>th</sup>, we have a discussion about deployment options. I’ve prepared a PPT to walk us through the discussion during the telecon, attached. The first chart is really just historical architecture mapping, and the deployment options discussion starts on chart 2. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I’m afraid I’ve got only an hour in the telecon on Tuesday, so hopefully we can start this discussion without too much delay. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'> -=- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Mike Kearney</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#002060'>Huntsville, Alabama, USA <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:david@giaretta.org">david@giaretta.org</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 7, 2021 6:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org">techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Stafford, Laura' <<a href="mailto:LStafford@asrcfederal.com">LStafford@asrcfederal.com</a>>; MOIMS-DAI List <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] [Cesg-all] CCSDS Fall 2021 Technical Meetings Agenda Request - Requires Your Input<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoList><span lang=EN-US>The draft agenda for MOIMS-DAI Fall 2021 meeting is available at <a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Meeting%20Materials%20and%20Minutes/2021-10%20Virtual/CCSDS%20MOIMS-DAI%20Fall%202021%20Agenda.docx?d=w425d83c18771488c9007b6a2348dc7cf">https://cwe.ccsds.org/moims/docs/MOIMS-DAI/Meeting%20Materials%20and%20Minutes/2021-10%20Virtual/CCSDS%20MOIMS-DAI%20Fall%202021%20Agenda.docx?d=w425d83c18771488c9007b6a2348dc7cf</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>..David<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> CESG-All <<a href="mailto:cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stafford, Laura via CESG-All<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2021 18:30<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Cesg-all] CCSDS Fall 2021 Technical Meetings Agenda Request - Requires Your Input<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Dear Chairs and Area Directors,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The Agendas webpage for the CCSDS Fall 202</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>1<span style='color:black'> Technical Meetings requires your input. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://public.ccsds.org/meetings/2021Fall/2021FallAgendas.aspx">https://public.ccsds.org/meetings/2021Fall/2021FallAgendas.aspx</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>As an Area Director, WG, SIG, or BOF Chairman it is your responsibility to keep an updated agenda for your meeting(s) loaded at the CCSDS website.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Send your agendas (or e-mail us your agenda URL in the CWE) to CCSDS Tech Support at (mailto:</span><u><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><a href="mailto:techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org">techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org</a></span></u><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:#424242'>Laura Stafford</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#DC4912'><br></span><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#424242'>CCSDS IT Tech Support</span></i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><u><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#0563C1'><a href="mailto:lstafford@asrcfederal.com%20%0d">lstafford@asrcfederal.com </a></span></u><u><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0563C1'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#BE811B'>c:</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#424242'> (937) 499-3591</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#424242'>7000 Muirkirk Meadows Drive, Beltsville, MD 20705</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><a href="https://www.asrcfederal.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#044A91'>asrcfederal.com</span></a></span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#3C6477'> </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#BE811B'>|</span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#3C6477'> </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#3C6477'>Purpose Driven. 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