<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">I heard from Peter Shames. He apologised for not getting back to us. He is very busy with other documents and will get back to us as soon as he can.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">David</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000" dir="auto"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: david@giaretta.org </div><div>Date: 06/04/2020 18:38 (GMT+00:00) </div><div>To: MOIMS-DAI List <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org> </div><div>Subject: [Moims-dai] Reminder of Skype call Tuesday </div><div><br></div></div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Meeting: 10:00 Tuesday (EST), 1500 UK time, 1600 Paris time<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Join it by clicking the link:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="https://join.skype.com/ykyu5SIPhSnD"><span lang="EN-US">https://join.skype.com/ykyu5SIPhSnD</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">*Don't have Skype yet? Download it before you join </span><a href="https://www.skype.com"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.skype.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">General schedule:<o:p></o:p></span></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Tuesday of the month<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Activity<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Technical Editor(s)<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">1<sup>st</sup> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">ISO 16363 Audit and Certification Metrics<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">John Garrett, David Giaretta<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">2<sup>nd</sup><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">IPELTU Info Preservation Enabling Long-Term Usage<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">David Giaretta, Roberta Svanetti<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">3<sup>rd</sup><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">OAIS-IF DAADD OAIS Interoperability Framework – Digital Archive Architecture Design Doc<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Steve Hughes<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">4<sup>th</sup><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">OAIS update finalization, Group administration, Planning, new projects, or special issues identified other weeks<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">5<sup>th</sup> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">OAIS update finalization, Group administration, Planning, new projects, or special issues identified other weeks<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Draft agenda this week (1st Tuesday of the month): Status updates on items 1-3. The main discussion should be item 5 – the OAIS-IF, but we can also talk about item 4 (ISO 16363).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1"><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We are using </span><a href="http://review.oais.info"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">http://review.oais.info</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> to track actions – see </span><a href="http://review.oais.info/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&list_id=2522&order=Importance&product=ACTIONS&query_format=specific"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">http://review.oais.info/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&list_id=2522&order=Importance&product=ACTIONS&query_format=specific</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">IPELTU – awaiting input from me - apologies.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">OAIS </span>– waiting for confirmation from Peter Shames.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">ISO 16363 – we need be thinking about specific changes to discuss in a few weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">OAIS-IF<o:p></o:p></span></li><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="a"><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Steve circulated documents </span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9g0we2yu56w1ik/02_White_Book_Recommended_Standard_OAIS-IF_Draft_191216%20v5.3%20NewSection3%20%281%29.doc?dl=0"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9g0we2yu56w1ik/02_White_Book_Recommended_Standard_OAIS-IF_Draft_191216%20v5.3%20NewSection3%20%281%29.doc?dl=0</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> , </span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/x07qnsit8suhhq1/index_0300%20%282%29.html?dl=0"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://www.dropbox.com/s/x07qnsit8suhhq1/index_0300%20%282%29.html?dl=0</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> and diagram </span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jcyrm50h4i59ks/Information_Model_Package_200102.jpg?dl=0"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jcyrm50h4i59ks/Information_Model_Package_200102.jpg?dl=0</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> and spreadsheet of MicroServices at </span><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/gstbbh2vk3uq2un/MicroServices_191210_Generalized.xlsx?dl=0"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://www.dropbox.com/s/gstbbh2vk3uq2un/MicroServices_191210_Generalized.xlsx?dl=0</span></a><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I set up a shared Google doc for concept papers relevant to OAIS-IF, which have both had text and concepts added<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-126.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Concept paper on how ro get RepInfo needed – see <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/14V0wN6nEnG2MaSMmNClRzuDrTxcB0zjv0XNw2pdYDI8/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/14V0wN6nEnG2MaSMmNClRzuDrTxcB0zjv0XNw2pdYDI8/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-126.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’ve added text and updated the Class diagram and added a UML Component Diagram in <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/14V0wN6nEnG2MaSMmNClRzuDrTxcB0zjv0XNw2pdYDI8/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/14V0wN6nEnG2MaSMmNClRzuDrTxcB0zjv0XNw2pdYDI8/edit?usp=sharing</a> These may make the relationship to CCSDS MAL and Mike’s PPT slide clearer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="5" type="1"><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="3" type="a"><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Steve circulated some updated diagrams 2 weeks ago: <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-126.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/mfl24uq3zfvc6it/Information_Model_Package_Mapping_Transform.jpg?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/mfl24uq3zfvc6it/Information_Model_Package_Mapping_Transform.jpg?dl=0</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-126.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/ul1x2i3wk9gs6x7/Information_Model_Package_Messaging.jpg?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/ul1x2i3wk9gs6x7/Information_Model_Package_Messaging.jpg?dl=0</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-126.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo3"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span>iii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/tckffig3676bwwc/Information_Model_Package_Request_Response.jpg?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/tckffig3676bwwc/Information_Model_Package_Request_Response.jpg?dl=0</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="5" type="1"><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="4" type="a"><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mark sent an email which some people did not receive:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Hello!<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Steve asked me to write down my question from the end of today's meeting so that we can discuss them later if necessary. I actually had several questions.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Does the OAIS-IF require changes to the OAIS Reference Model?<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt;text-indent:18.0pt"><i>I think I heard the answer was no.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Does the OAIS-IF require changes to ISO 16363?<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><i>I think I heard the answer was no.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>What additional burdens does an OAIS take on if it decides to implement the OAIS-IF?<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><i>I think I heard a variety of opinions on this.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Why would an OAIS want to take on these additional burdens?<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><i>I think I heard to support cross-discipline research.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Given that researchers are already figuring out ways to acquire and combine information from multiple sources - including across disciplines - will OAIS-IF be cost effective?<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><i>The only thing I remember hearing about this was from Mike. I think I heard him say that he had presented the OAIS-IF concept multiple times and no one had raised the issue of cost effectiveness.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Who will develop the plug-ins that will be necessary for the OAIS-IF to work.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><i>I think I heard CCSDS will develop the plugins for space data.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Hope this is useful.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><i>Mark<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:90.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">..David<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>