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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’ve put my responses to your and John’s comments at <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/5727jlis2lnzuvu/OAIS%20final%20v3%20draft%20with%20changes%20wrt%20OAISv2%2020190425_bbh_with-DAI-responses-20190605-DG-trial-CI-mcJGG-DG.docx?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/5727jlis2lnzuvu/OAIS%20final%20v3%20draft%20with%20changes%20wrt%20OAISv2%2020190425_bbh_with-DAI-responses-20190605-DG-trial-CI-mcJGG-DG.docx?dl=0</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’ve responded to the points in Mark’s email below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>..David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Conrad<br><b>Sent:</b> 23 August 2019 21:01<br><b>To:</b> MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Notes of Skype call Tuesday 20th Aug 2019 and preparation for Skype call next week<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I have completed my review of the document with David's proposal for, "changing 20 (out of 216) mentions of “Content Information” to “Information Object” and changing 37 (out of 102) mentions of “Content Data” to “Data”." I have inserted comments throughout the document. As you will see, I strongly object to the proposed changes. There are a number of reasons for my objections, including:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The changes would require OAISes to keep PDI for every Data Object under their control.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:red'>No – as John and I point out, these are just definitions, not requirements.</span></b><b><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The changes lead to (further) inconsistencies within the document.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:red'>I did not see/understand those inconsistencies, although there were a couple of points that may need discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>This is a further dilution from Content Information -> Content Data Object -> Data Object. An AIP must have Content Information and associated PDI for the Content Information - not just the CDO. PDI is not required for any Information Objects other than Content Information.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:red'>Yes I agree that PDI is not required for Information Objects except for Content Information. But the changes mean that one is not prevented from having PDI for other Information Objects. Most of the text focusses on AIPs, which have Content Information.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>It would be much better and easier to state what is the reality. SIPs, AIPs, and DIPs have very little in common in terms of purpose or requirements. SIPs are used to transmit all or parts of Content Information and PDI from the Producer to the OAIS. DIPs are used to transmit all or parts of information derived from AIPs. "The exact information contents of the SIP and DIP and their relationship to the corresponding AIP are dependent on the agreements between the Archive and its Producers and Consumers." (Section 4.2.2.2)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:red'>As we discussed at the meeting, this would be an alternative, consistent, way of doing things but I personally think it is conceptually messy and would cause other problems. One may feel obliged to remove the common term “Information Package” from SIP, AIP, DIP. The use of the term “Information Package” would become difficult/impossible in related OAIS documents. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Mark Conrad<br>NARA Information Services<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>Systems Engineering Division (IT)<br>The National Archives and Records Administration<br>Erma Ora Byrd Conference and Learning Center<br>Building 494, Room 225<br>610 State Route 956<br>Rocket Center, WV 26726<br><br>Phone: 304-726-7820<br>Fax: 304-726-7802<br>Email: <a href="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov" target="_blank">mark.conrad@nara.gov</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 7:48 AM David Giaretta <<a href="mailto:david@giaretta.org">david@giaretta.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'>Discussion this week (3rd Tuesday of the month):<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Most discussion was about the updated UML diagram sent by Steve Hughes just before the meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>UML tools:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:144.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>JPL uses MagicDraw<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:144.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>DG uses Enterprise Architect<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:144.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Felix suggest that <a href="https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2019-06/r/eclipse-modeling-toolshttps:/www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2019-06/r/eclipse-modeling-tools" target="_blank">https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2019-06/r/eclipse-modeling-toolshttps://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2019-06/r/eclipse-modeling-tools</a> might be of interest. He also sent the document ReverseEngineeringPlugins.docx available at <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/sja7y0rzwedl40h/ReverseEngineeringPlugins.docx?dl=0" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/sja7y0rzwedl40h/ReverseEngineeringPlugins.docx?dl=0</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>An issue which overlaps with the OAIS updates was the definition of Information Packages – currently they must have “Content Information” rather than the more general “Information Objects” – see mark up in document noted in the action below. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'>Preparation for next Skype call on <span lang=EN-US>OAIS update finalization</span>:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>The<b> </b>document with combined changes wrt 2012 release of OAIS is available at <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/o424z4gfmoaosnc/OAIS%20final%20v3%20draft%20with%20changes%20wrt%20OAISv2%2020190425_bbh_with-DAI-responses-20190605-20190805.docx?dl=0" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/o424z4gfmoaosnc/OAIS%20final%20v3%20draft%20with%20changes%20wrt%20OAISv2%2020190425_bbh_with-DAI-responses-20190605-20190805.docx?dl=0</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8238553238411284985msolistparagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='color:red'>ACTION FOR ALL BEFORE THE NEXT SKYPE CALL</span></b>: read and comment on additional suggested changes in <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/avi4vu6u888lz6q/OAIS%20final%20v3%20draft%20with%20changes%20wrt%20OAISv2%2020190425_bbh_with-DAI-responses-20190605-DG-trial-CI-change.docx?dl=0" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/avi4vu6u888lz6q/OAIS%20final%20v3%20draft%20with%20changes%20wrt%20OAISv2%2020190425_bbh_with-DAI-responses-20190605-DG-trial-CI-change.docx?dl=0</a> . This involved changing 20 (out of 216) mentions of “Content Information” to “Information Object” and changing 37 (out of 102) mentions of “Content Data” to “Data”.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'>..David<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>MOIMS-DAI mailing list<br><a href="mailto:MOIMS-DAI@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">MOIMS-DAI@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><a href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai" target="_blank">https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>