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<p class="MsoNormal">Dr. Conrad, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is incredibly helpful.  We are just about to do an update on the FAQs.  I would be delighted to include the additional information.  Let me know if you would like to be part of the text review when the time comes. I would be grateful
 to have someone familiar with the subject make sure we captured/linked correctly.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Shelley Stall  <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Mark Conrad <mark.conrad@nara.gov><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, May 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shelley Stall <SStall@agu.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>MOIMS-Data Archive Ingestion <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Core Trust Seal v ISO 16363<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I discovered the Enabling FAIR Data Project website through a reference in the
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NSF Dear Colleague Letter 19-069.</a> I was particularly struck by the mention of CoreTrustSeal and ISO 16363 certifications on the
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Resources</a> page of the website. The page does not make it clear that there is a substantial difference in the rigor/extent of the two certification processes. 
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<p class="MsoNormal">Consists of 16 high-level requirements<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Involves self-assessment and peer review<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is also worth noting that the Working Group that developed and maintains ISO 14721:2012, A Reference Model for an Open Archival Information System (OAIS), ISO 16363:2012, Audit and certification of trustworthy digital repositories, and ISO
 16919:2014, Requirements for bodies providing audit and certification of candidate trustworthy digital repositories, does so under the auspices of the Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems (CCSDS). The CCSDS membership includes most of the national
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would think that an explanation of the substantial differences in the two certification processes would be useful for the readers of the Enabling FAIR Data Project website.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the interests of full disclosure, I am a member of the Working Group that produced and maintains the ISO standards.<o:p></o:p></p>
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NARA Information Services<o:p></o:p></p>
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