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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Eld<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hope everything goes well at the hospital.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We had a short Skype call but agreed the discussion on inner-outer would have to wait until next week.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>John is going to produce another version of his restructuring of section 6 before the end of the week, in particular updating the last section, which covers the inner-outer OAIS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>..David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eld Zierau<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 October 2018 09:54<br><b>To:</b> MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Nancy Y McGovern (nancymcg@mit.edu) <nancymcg@mit.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Reminder of Skype call tomorrow (replaces the Webex call)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I am afraid that I cannot attend today, as I have a hospital appointment with my son.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>But next Tuesday, I will be able to, along with Michelle Lindlar, Nancy McGovern from MIT and Bertrand Caron from the French national Library. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I acknowledge the work you have done to try and rephrase things, but I think that the rewrite of the OO-IO part is missing the points – I do not mind the new introduction to the section 6 (although I have so far only have had time to skim it), - but I am not in </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>favour</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> of the rewrite of the OO-IO part (which also seems to be based on the version before the rewrite from the subgroup which is this: <a href="http://review.oais.info/attachment.cgi?id=42">http://review.oais.info/attachment.cgi?id=42</a> and which was the version accepted before Mark Conrad’s strong objections).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>My view on this is that we should go back to the previously accepted version <a href="http://review.oais.info/attachment.cgi?id=42">http://review.oais.info/attachment.cgi?id=42</a> adjusted to Mark Conrad’s comments from the 7<sup>th</sup> of September in the following way:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#1F497D;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>The phrase about “Preservation Objectives that are not concerned with functional interpretation of the bits” is rephrased and referring to the Designated Community instead.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>With the new introduction it should be clear that this is distribution, - and therefore for readers with knowledge of complexities in distribution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>The comments about OO-IO “being confusing at best” does not hold with the feedback from various presentations in the community. I have just returned from the iPRES conference on digital preservation, where I had the best long paper award for a paper that also builds on the OO-IO model. My presentation of the paper included the OO-IO model including recursive parts (and audience included NARA representatives). I only had very positive response, and no response indicating that it was confusing with the OO-IO model. From what I heard from other participants in the meetings that it seemed potential useful to them as well. All the above mentioned persons can report of the usefulness of the OO-IO terminology, - and if you think it is necessary, I am sure I can find more known digital preservation personalities that would like to participate in the next meeting and support this statement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Best regards, Eld<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DA>From:</span></b><span lang=DA> MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Garrett<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability' <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Reminder of Skype call tomorrow (replaces the Webex call)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Sorry for this late contribution. <br>It seemed to some of us that Section 6 wasn’t quite on the right track. I took a crack at reorganizing a bit and hopefully simplifying it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I think it remains closer to the starting text from OAIS 2012, but also adds in some of the new concepts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I’ve also eliminated some of more detailed, recursive OO-IO examples that I thought might be causing some of the disagreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t know if this will help, but I’m offering it as possibility. We can discuss it on the telecon later today if others think it useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Peace and joy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>-JOhn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> MOIMS-DAI [<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Giaretta<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 1, 2018 9:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> MOIMS-DAI List <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Moims-dai] Reminder of Skype call tomorrow (replaces the Webex call)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Meeting: 10:00 Tuesday (EST) (1500 UK time, 1600 European time) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>John has made a group on Skype for us to chat, share and collaborate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>Join it by clicking the link:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://join.skype.com/ykyu5SIPhSnD">https://join.skype.com/ykyu5SIPhSnD</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>*Don't have Skype yet? Download it before you join <a href="https://www.skype.com">https://www.skype.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>This is the last open issue we need to resolve to finalise the draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><span lang=EN-US><a href="http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=135">http://review.oais.info/show_bug.cgi?id=135</a> (Outer OAIS – Inner OAIS model for Distributed digital preservation) was re-opened for further discussion. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>As discussed 2 weeks ago at the MOIMS-DAI Skype call, I took the ideas I had previously circulated and have restructured the text in section 6 in order to clarify the relationship between the different arrangements of organisations described in this section, which was one of the main talking points in previous calls. See <a href="http://review.oais.info/attachment.cgi?id=50">http://review.oais.info/attachment.cgi?id=50</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>You will see that it is mostly a rearrangement of text existing in the draft, with some additional “glue” to try to show the relationship between the different options.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I moved the text from the last subsection into an earlier subsection and replaced it with a brief discussion about Technical Issues about interoperability. It may be useful to expand that a little in order to link to the document Steve is preparing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Mark sent his comments on this proposed restructuring of section 6 on 25<sup>th</sup> Sept.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There was also an action on me to suggest a clarification about Representation Information, which I attach, and which I hope we can discuss.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>..David<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>