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    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, Mike Kearney <kearneysolutions@gmail.com> wrote:
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#yiv8109437397 </style><div><div class="yiv8109437397WordSection1"><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">While at the WLIC conference, I attended the IFLA preservation and conservation sub-committee meeting.  While they were musing over initiatives they could adopt to help the IFLA “vision” I suggested that they should advocate that their member organizations who attempt preservation should work towards 16363 certification by PTAB, even if some only make it to the self-assessment phase.  They seemed quite interested (but a little nervous about it), but recorded it in the minutes for future work.  So… maybe that will help our missionary objectives.  </span></a></p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">  </span></p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">   -=- Mike</span></p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">  </span></p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Mike Kearney</span></p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Huntsville, Alabama, USA</span></p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">  </span></p><div class="yiv8109437397yqt0759616376" id="yiv8109437397yqt70873"><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> MOIMS-DAI [mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Ambacher<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 26, 2018 4:31 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] FW: UNESCO PERSIST Selection Guidelines</span></p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal">  </p><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">I agree with Mark regarding the library perspective but stand by the fact that only records management standards are cited.  None of our work, dating back to 1995, is mentioned. We clearly need to do more missionary work.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></p><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: Mark Conrad <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov">mark.conrad@nara.gov</a>><br clear="none">To: MOIMS-Data Archive Ingestion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br clear="none">Sent: Wed, Sep 26, 2018 3:49 pm<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Moims-dai] FW: UNESCO PERSIST Selection Guidelines</span></p><div id="yiv8109437397"><div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Bruce et al, </span></p><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">I agree that this document contains a great deal of outdated information. I don't agree that it is written mainly from a records management point of view. I believe it is written primarily from a library point of view. The library profession continues to "(re)discover" principles and practices from the archival profession and give them new names. If they didn't invent it, it doesn't exist.  Thus appraisal becomes selection.</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">My two cents,</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Mark Conrad<br clear="none">NARA Information Services</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Systems Engineering Division (IT)<br clear="none">The National Archives and Records Administration<br clear="none">Erma Ora Byrd Conference and Learning Center<br clear="none">Building 494, Room 225<br clear="none">610 State Route 956<br clear="none">Rocket Center, WV  26726<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Phone: 304-726-7820<br clear="none">Fax: 304-726-7802<br clear="none">Email: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov">mark.conrad@nara.gov</a> </span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div></div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p><div><div id="yiv8109437397yqtfd96153"><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 2:28 PM Bruce Ambacher <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bambacher@verizon.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:bambacher@verizon.net">bambacher@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 2.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Mike, all, </span></p><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">My quick observations are not to endorse or disparage this report.</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">The committee that drafted the report does not contain anyone from the USA, UK, or virtually any CCSDS country.</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">The focus arises from a records management perspective as seen in the bibliography which only references ISO records management standards - NO mention of ISO 16363, OAIS, or ISO 16919.</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Since it is records management oriented it stresses non-traditional record types (web, email, social media) and offers rather simplistic views of traditional repositories (archives, libraries, museums).  It is an adequate starting place but the digital preservation community actually is far beyond these principles.</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">  </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">The failure to deal with the issues various CCSDS committees are addressing or to discuss obtaining outside confirmation of best practices leaves  us an opportunity to take their concepts much further and to draw any such concerned programs and personnel to our efforts.</span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></p><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: Mike Kearney <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kearneysolutions@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kearneysolutions@gmail.com">kearneysolutions@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">To: 'MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability' <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br clear="none">Sent: Tue, Sep 25, 2018 7:35 pm<br clear="none">Subject: [Moims-dai] FW: UNESCO PERSIST Selection Guidelines</span></p><div id="yiv8109437397m_1603629650006474939yiv7858957779"><div><div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" name="m_1603629650006474939__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">FYI, of possible interest to the community.  </span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p></div><div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">   -=- Mike</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Mike Kearney</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Huntsville, Alabama, USA</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"></span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><p class="yiv8109437397MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Tanja Clausen [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tanja.clausen@ifla.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:tanja.clausen@ifla.org">tanja.clausen@ifla.org</a>] <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 24, 2018 9:30 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> UNESCO PERSIST Selection Guidelines</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="yiv810943739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