<div dir="ltr">I agree with Matthias. The OO-IO model is one way of implementing distributed Archives with distributed functional entities. It should not replace the more general text that was already agreed. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Mark Conrad<br>NARA Information Services</div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:41 AM, Prof. Dr.-Ing. Matthias L. Hemmje <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Matthias.Hemmje@fernuni-hagen.de" target="_blank">Matthias.Hemmje@fernuni-hagen.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-8536875793724511255WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">PS:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">In addition <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">I would like to remind you that this issue had already been discussed <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">several times and was also finally decided. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">The ticketing system clearly tracks and documents this decision with the statement<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">of David: „<i>DAI 20171107 agrees on the more general approach in this attachment <u></u><u></u></i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">to supporting distributed archiving rather than introducing about Inner-Outer</span></i><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">“. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">So I do not understand, why this was later re-openend<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">after the 8<sup>th</sup> of May this year and of course why this was not coordinated with us.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">Again, Inner-Outer etc. is a very special form of distribution. If properly motivated,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">it can be positioned as such a special topology of <distribution but not<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">by substituting the more general form of Distributed Archives with Distributed<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d">Functional Entities.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>FernUniversität Hagen Phone: +49-2331-987-304<br>Prof. Dr.-Ing. Matthias L. Hemmje Fax: +49-2331-987-4487<br>Universitätsstrasse 1 Email: <a href="mailto:Matthias.Hemmje@fernuni-hagen.de" target="_blank">Matthias.Hemmje@fernuni-hagen.<wbr>de</a><br>D-58097 Hagen, Germany Web: <a href="http://www.fernuni-hagen.de/" target="_blank">http://www.fernuni-hagen.de/</a><br>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------</span><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">moims-dai-bounces@mailman.<wbr>ccsds.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Prof. Dr.-Ing. Matthias L. Hemmje<br><b>Sent:</b> Montag, 4. Juni 2018 08:23<br><b>To:</b> 'MOIMS-Data Archive Interoperability' <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Version with updates to section 6.1.5, drawings and some references<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Good Morning, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">I would like to object to these changes related to 6.1.5. in the currently introduced form<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">as they are misusing our original contribution and are misleading w.r.t. the original <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">intentions of adding this section. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">We have been introducing, coordinating and<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">discussing our contribution for more than two years now.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">It was initially based on an change request prepared <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">in several workshop activities by the NESTOR communities<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">in Germany and therefore it is not ok to try to turn it into something <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">totally different now.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">This new intended contribution is introducing other concepts (inner and<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">outer OAIS) which are less general than the concept of a distributed <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">OAIS with distributed functional entities. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">The concepts of an inner and an outer OAIS had been <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">discussed repeatedly and diversely but NEVER<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">in relationship to section 6.1.5. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">If they are to be added now, they should <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">be added in a different place and with clear motivations and consensus<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">building beforehand which I have not been aware of.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">In the new figures / example provided and the accordingly revised text, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">the inner and outer OAIS are still complete OAIS which was NOT the <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">idea of the original contribution of this section related to distributed OAIS <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">with distributed functional entities as we had been discussing a <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">distributed OAIS where the functional entities are really distributed<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">(and therefore each individual contributing archive may not be a complete OAIS<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">like many small and medium archives) and only their quasi virtual integration<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">produces the complete virtual OAIS.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">The concept of inner and outer OAIS is a different one. I am not saying it<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">could not be added as a separate contribution in some other place but not by misusing<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">our contribution in 6.1.5 and making the original intention of the concept of distributed OAIS <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">with distributed functional entities disappear.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Best regards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Matthias Hemmje<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>FernUniversität Hagen Phone: +49-2331-987-304<br>Prof. Dr.-Ing. Matthias L. Hemmje Fax: +49-2331-987-4487<br>Universitätsstrasse 1 Email: <a href="mailto:Matthias.Hemmje@fernuni-hagen.de" target="_blank">Matthias.Hemmje@fernuni-hagen.<wbr>de</a><br>D-58097 Hagen, Germany Web: <a href="http://www.fernuni-hagen.de/" target="_blank">http://www.fernuni-hagen.de/</a><br>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------</span><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> MOIMS-DAI <<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">moims-dai-bounces@mailman.<wbr>ccsds.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eld Zierau<br><b>Sent:</b> Freitag, 1. Juni 2018 16:39<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Moims-dai] Version with updates to section 6.1.5, drawings and some references<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As promised here is a version based on the document send 25 of April 2018.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It includes suggested changes to<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-8536875793724511255MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span lang="EN-US">Section 6-5 (in accordance with recent updates to issue 135)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-8536875793724511255MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span lang="EN-US">References in Annex D (in accordance with recent updates to issue 134)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-8536875793724511255MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span lang="EN-US">All figures are substituted except Figure C-1 (in accordance with issue 137, 140, 141, 142 and some minor colour changes and consistency in naming and place of arrow text)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards, Eld<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Eld Zierau</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>IT-konsulent, ph.d.<br><span style="color:gray">Digital Preservation Specialist, PhD</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Afdelingen for Digital Kulturarv<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray">Digital Cultural heritage <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">+4591324690<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:elzi@kb.dk" target="_blank">elzi@kb.dk</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><img border="0" width="115" height="90" style="width:1.1979in;height:.9375in" id="m_-8536875793724511255Billede_x0020_7" src="cid:image001.png@01D3FC09.BEEA2EC0"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Det Kgl. 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