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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">We might have to go back to CCSDS to
      reopen comments from anyone (so it doesn't look like were giving
      preference to one group), but I'd be in favor of that.  <br>
      Or we could wait for ISO review and let LOTAR comment then. 
      Clearly, they have a direct interest, and one wonders why they
      took so long to notice.<br>
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      Terry<br>
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      On 6/20/2017 9:08 AM, Mark Conrad wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Are we willing to still accept input from LOTAR on
        changes to ISO 14721? Perhaps this is something we could discuss
        at today's meeting?
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                        <div>Mark Conrad<br>
                          NARA Information Services</div>
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                          The National Archives and Records
                          Administration<br>
                          Erma Ora Byrd Conference and Learning Center<br>
                          Building 494, Room 225<br>
                          610 State Route 956<br>
                          Rocket Center, WV  26726<br>
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                          Phone: 304-726-7820<br>
                          Fax: 304-726-7802<br>
                          Email: <a href="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.conrad@nara.gov</a>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message
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            From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Zuray, Richard S</b> <span
              dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard.s.zuray@boeing.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">richard.s.zuray@boeing.com</a>></span><br>
            Date: Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:33 AM<br>
            Subject: RE: [Lotar] Full ISO 16363 Trustworthy Digital
            Repository Audit Is Now Possible<br>
            To: Mark Conrad <<a href="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov"
              moz-do-not-send="true">mark.conrad@nara.gov</a>><br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Mark,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
                    was also wandering about the current status of ISO
                    14721 draft for 2017 version.  Is there still time
                    available for LOTAR input?  Can we get a draft copy
                    to review?</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></i></b></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Best
                        regards,</span></i></b></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Kunstler
                      Script";color:#323e4f">Rick Zuray</span></b><b><i><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Vivaldi;color:red"><br>
                      </span></i></b><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Technical
                        Principal<br>
                        LOTAR International co-chair<br>
                        The Boeing Company</span></i></b></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Technical
                        Assurance & Innovation</span></i></b></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Industry
                        Data Standards and MBD/MBE Focal</span></i></b><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>
                      <i>Mobile:<a href="tel:%28206%29%20778-6730"
                          value="+12067786730" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">(206) 778-6730</a><u> </u></i></span></b></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
                            href="mailto:richard.s.zuray@boeing.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                              style="color:#0563c1">richard.s.zuray@boeing.com</span></a></span></u></i></b></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">“Let
                      us run with endurance the race that is set before
                      us.”</span></i><b><i><u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></u></i></b></p>
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                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                    Mark Conrad [mailto:<a
                      href="mailto:mark.conrad@nara.gov" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">mark.conrad@nara.gov</a>]
                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 12, 2017 11:31 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Zuray, Richard S <<a
                      href="mailto:richard.s.zuray@boeing.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">richard.s.zuray@boeing.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> LOTAR <<a
                      href="mailto:lotar@lists.purdue.edu"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lotar@lists.purdue.edu</a>><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lotar] Full ISO 16363
                    Trustworthy Digital Repository Audit Is Now Possible</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Rick,</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">I would be happy to talk about
                      this. </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Mark</p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Mark Conrad<br>
                                    NARA Information Services</p>
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                                    style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">IAS<br>
                                    The National Archives and Records
                                    Administration<br>
                                    Erma Ora Byrd Conference and
                                    Learning Center<br>
                                    Building 494, Room 225<br>
                                    610 State Route 956<br>
                                    Rocket Center, WV  26726<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Phone: <a
                                      href="tel:%28304%29%20726-7820"
                                      value="+13047267820"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">304-726-7820</a><br>
                                    Fax: <a
                                      href="tel:%28304%29%20726-7802"
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                                    Email: <a
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:11
                      PM, Zuray, Richard S <<a
                        href="mailto:richard.s.zuray@boeing.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">richard.s.zuray@boeing.com</a>>
                      wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Mark,</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This
                              is what the LOTAR team has been looking
                              for with regards to OAIS compliance and
                              Auditing & Certification processes.  I
                              would like to discuss this further with
                              you.  Perhaps I can set up a meeting with
                              you and the LOTAR Leadership Team in the
                              near future.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></i></b></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Best
                                  regards,</span></i></b></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Kunstler
                                Script";color:#323e4f">Rick Zuray</span></b><b><i><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Vivaldi;color:red"><br>
                                </span></i></b><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Technical
                                  Principal<br>
                                  LOTAR International co-chair<br>
                                  The Boeing Company</span></i></b></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Technical
                                  Assurance & Innovation</span></i></b></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Industry
                                  Data Standards and MBD/MBE Focal</span></i></b><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>
                                <i>Mobile:<a
                                    href="tel:%28206%29%20778-6730"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">(206)
                                    778-6730</a><u> </u></i></span></b></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
href="mailto:richard.s.zuray@boeing.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                        style="color:#0563c1">richard.s.zuray@boeing.com</span></a></span></u></i></b></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">“Let
                                us run with endurance the race that is
                                set before us.”</span></i></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">This communication
                                and any attachments may contain
                                confidential or privileged information.
                                <br>
                                If you are not the intended recipient,
                                or believe that you have received this
                                communication
                                <br>
                                in error,  please do not print, copy,
                                retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise
                                use the information. 
                                <br>
                                Also, please indicate to the sender 
                                that you have received
                                this communication in error,
                                <br>
                                and delete the copy you received.  Thank
                                you.</span></i></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                              <a
                                href="mailto:lotar-bounces@lists.purdue.edu"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lotar-bounces@lists.purdue.edu</a>
                              [mailto:<a
                                href="mailto:lotar-bounces@lists.purdue.edu"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lotar-bounces@lists.<wbr>purdue.edu</a>]
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Conrad<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 12, 2017 9:58 AM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> LOTAR <<a
                                href="mailto:lotar@lists.purdue.edu"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lotar@lists.purdue.edu</a>><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> [Lotar] Full ISO 16363
                              Trustworthy Digital Repository Audit Is
                              Now Possible</span></p>
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                              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3d3d3d">I
                                thought this might be of interest to
                                some LOTAR members.</span></p>
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                              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3d3d3d"> </span></p>
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                              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3d3d3d">The
                                Primary Trustworthy Digital Repository
                                Authorization Body Ltd. (PTAB) has been
                                accredited to carry out ISO 16363:2012 -
                                Audit and certification of trustworthy
                                digital repositories - audits and
                                certify compliant repositories as
                                Trustworthy Digital Repositories. The
                                audits are carried out in accordance
                                with ISO/IEC 17021-1:2015 - Requirements
                                for bodies providing audit and
                                certification of management systems --
                                Part 1 and ISO 16919:2014 - Requirements
                                for bodies providing audit and
                                certification of candidate trustworthy
                                digital repositories.</span></p>
                            <p
style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline;min-height:8pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3d3d3d"> </span></p>
                            <p
                              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3d3d3d">Long
                                before it first became an approved
                                standard in 2002, many repositories had
                                adopted the Open Archival Information
                                System (OAIS) (ISO 14721) as a reference
                                model to better understand what would be
                                needed from digital preservation
                                systems. Institutions began to declare
                                themselves ‘OAIS-compliant’ to
                                underscore the trustworthiness of their
                                digital repositories. However, there was
                                no established understanding of
                                ‘OAIS-compliance’ beyond being able to
                                apply OAIS terminology to describe their
                                archive. Establishing clear criteria to
                                identify trustworthy repositories has
                                been recognized as early as 2002 as
                                vital to ensure that our valuable
                                digitally encoded information will
                                continue to be understandable and
                                usable. Claims of trustworthiness are
                                easy to make but until now have been
                                difficult to justify or objectively
                                prove. In 2007 a working group that
                                included many of the authors of OAIS
                                (ISO 14721) began developing additional
                                standards to address this need: ISO
                                16363 lists criteria a trustworthy
                                digital repository should meet, ISO
                                16919 provides requirements for the
                                organizations that will carry out audits
                                and certifications of digital
                                repositories. These two standards,
                                together with ISO 17021-1, provide the
                                instrument for auditing candidate
                                trustworthy digital repositories in an
                                internationally agreed way in the same
                                way that so many aspects of our lives
                                depend on ISO certification for example
                                in food safety, information security and
                                environmental management systems.
                                International agreements ensure that
                                certifications are recognized around the
                                world.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3d3d3d">PTAB
                                is the first organization in the world
                                to receive this accreditation. Hopefully
                                others will follow. In the mean time,
                                you will begin to see ISO-certified
                                Trustworthy Digital Repositories as the
                                PTAB begins auditing candidate
                                repositories. For more information see <a
                                  href="http://www.iso16363.org/"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.iso16363.org/</a>.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3d3d3d">In
                                the interest of full disclosure, I am a
                                member of the working group that
                                authored ISO 14721, ISO 16363, and ISO
                                16919. I am not a member of the PTAB,
                                but I collaborate with many of its
                                members in carrying out my ISO work.</span></p>
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                                              NARA Information Services</p>
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