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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I had suggested that we just point out that people can join the MOIMS-DAI mailing list? That will allow them to take part in all the discussions. What other participation would be involved other than arranged via the mailing list?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>..David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> MOIMS-DAI [mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Kearney<br><b>Sent:</b> 27 July 2016 15:23<br><b>To:</b> 'MOIMS-Data Archive Ingestion' <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Final draft of notification<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I agree with all the positive comments for keeping a paragraph that invites more participation, so I withdraw my “delete the paragraph” suggestion. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My concern was with the phrasing “</span><span lang=EN-US>Should the decision be taken to update the OAIS Reference Model…</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>” because it’s a given that we will update the reference model based on the comments received in response to this announcement. Well, if not a “given” it’s at least a 99.9% probability. So I would recommend deleting only that first phrase and starting with something like “When the document is revised based on the comments received in this review process, there will be an opportunity to participate…” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> -=- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mike Kearney<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Huntsville, Alabama, USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> MOIMS-DAI [<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:bambacher@verizon.net">bambacher@verizon.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Final draft of notification<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>John makes very valid points for keeping the paragraph. On the positive side, in addition to getting all issues raised before CCSDS approval, it could bring PTAB and DAI new talent with energy and resources. Given the overall process and rules I do not see too much of a downside.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On 07/26/16, John Garrett<<a href="mailto:garrett@his.com">garrett@his.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi,</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I think that we should keep the paragraph inviting possible participation in the update work. I know we will have an update group, but we need to reach out and encourage new participation in this group.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>It is possible that we may be inviting disruptors, but we were all the new disruptors once. This paragraph was in the call when we distributed before the last update 10 years ago and it didn’t result in that many new participants. Many potential disruptors won’t have resources behind them. And most disruptors don’t have enough interest to continue participating when the other participants hold the line on what we expect the standard to be and on what CCSDS has approved. And a failsafe that we have is that officially in CCSDS, their home nation’s Space Agency needs to approve their participation.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Another reason is that we want the ISO review to not bring up any new comments. We want all the comments and problems coming up during development of the CCSDS version. It causes real problems to have an approved CCSDS issue and then have to create a new issue (even for minor changes) due to comments only coming in during the ISO review. During the ISO review, we can’t really prevent anyone from participating since the comments come in through any ISO country’s review.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Wishing you prosperity and peace,</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>-JOhn </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> MOIMS-DAI [<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Kearney<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 26, 2016 1:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'MOIMS-Data Archive Ingestion' <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Moims-dai] Final draft of notification<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Comments attached. Mostly editorial. Sorry to have found more comments after our long discussion this morning. David, you should keep or toss them as you see fit, no need for further discussion. </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> -=- Mike</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Mike Kearney</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Huntsville, Alabama, USA</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> MOIMS-DAI [<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Giaretta<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'MOIMS DAI List' <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Moims-dai] Final draft of notification<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Last comments by COB today. I’ll send out the final version to this list tomorrow.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>..David</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>MOIMS-DAI mailing list<br><a href="mailto:MOIMS-DAI@mailman.ccsds.org" target="_blank">MOIMS-DAI@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><a href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai" target="_blank">https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/moims-dai</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>