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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Please find below for discussion, last exchange with Peter Shames on registries.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Shames, Peter M (312B) [mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov]
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<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 13 mai 2015 18:16<br>
<b>À :</b> Boucon Daniele<br>
<b>Cc :</b> Larzul Beatrice; John Garrett; Nestor.Peccia@esa.int; 'Mike Martin'<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: Question re CCSDS registry recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear Daniele,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks for considering this and also for the reply. I certainly do understand the issue of resources and that your WG already has its priorities.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">That said, from a CCSDS overall perspective, we do have a problem now and it is only going to get worse over time. As recently as last week two new draft standards
arrived at CESG level and both of them included vague assertions that "CCSDS agencies will approve registry updates", without ever defining the agencies, which specific persons had the right / responsibility to do those approvals on behalf of the agency, nor
who in those agencies would appoint these approvers. From the specs that have been developed by the old Panel 2, which did include these kinds of elements explicitly, and given that your team tend to be data management / data archive people, I assume that
you all understand the need for these structures.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I am not saying this to ask for further help, only to point out what I think that you and your WG already understand, but that many other WGs do not. Within
the SEA, and using the SANA Steering Group (SSG), I intend to keep trying to make progress on this. If we keep putting it off we are only digging a bigger hole for ourselves. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Since you cannot support the work directly may I at least ask you to review and comment on this activity as it progresses?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Boucon Daniele <<a href="mailto:Daniele.Boucon@cnes.fr">Daniele.Boucon@cnes.fr</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 8:52 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Larzul Beatrice <<a href="mailto:Beatrice.Larzul@cnes.fr">Beatrice.Larzul@cnes.fr</a>>, John Garrett <<a href="mailto:garrett@his.com">garrett@his.com</a>>, Nestor Peccia <<a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a>>, 'Mike Martin'
<<a href="mailto:tahoe_mike@sbcglobal.net">tahoe_mike@sbcglobal.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Question re CCSDS registry recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Peter,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After discussion among the DAI WG, it appears that there is a real interest for the topic of registry.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On our side, we have planned to deliver by end of June our PAIS GB, this is a challenge for us that implies a lot of work, and a draft book for
the other ICP magenta book for end of 2015.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We really need to concentrate on these 2 tasks by end of the year, as we have not enough resources to accept more.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Taking into account the DAI constraints, and the interest for the WG, I suggest to discuss your proposal again during the November CCSDS meeting.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is that ok for you?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniele</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Shames, Peter M (312B) [<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>]
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<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 16 avril 2015 00:19<br>
<b>À :</b> Boucon Daniele<br>
<b>Cc :</b> Larzul Beatrice; John Garrett; <a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">
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<b>Objet :</b> Re: Question re CCSDS registry recommendations</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I am replying separately to this issue re proposed changes to CCSDS registries since it really is a separate topic from that of DEDSL. I am attaching here the
draft document that I have produced to prompt discussion. It seems that this is a timely topic since I just heard from the CSS SM WG that they are also looking at this same issue, with the intent of creating CSS SM registries for:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I can really see no good reason why we need a separate set of organization registries, and user / person registries, for each WG. We already have more than we
need, with separate sets for SCID, and MACAO, and Nav data producers, and now we may well have one or more other sets as well.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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appropriate roles (SCID requestor, MACAO PoC, Service commitment manager), and an organization reference</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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SM is already doing this)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I think this forms a framework to which we can attached all of the different kinds of agency-owned / managed / requested registries, including all of the machinery for managing delegation, sponsorship, etc, including the SCID and MACAO. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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