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James,</DIV>
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<DIV>Permit me to add a comment that tries to build up a basic structure of
information related to the important </DIV>
<DIV>discussions we had in our telecon, two days ago, as of last Jan. 20. I feel
a need, for myself, to organize my own </DIV>
<DIV>ideas, as possible, on the many aspects which are involved with the central
issue which, from my aprehension, at </DIV>
<DIV>the moment, could be named by something close to ...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>“<EM>On the Plan for Changing Cost Bearing and Administration of CCSDS and
of CCSDS to ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee</EM>”. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Departing from scratch, the organization of my ideas, at the moment, are
reflected in the enclosed (.docx) </DIV>
<DIV>document. The enclosed document possibly contains not only misses but also
imprecisions which I was not able to </DIV>
<DIV>get from my understanding on this issue, to this point in time.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just a proposal for your consideration. If you and our concerned CCSDS
colleagues find it to be worth, we could </DIV>
<DIV>use the enclosed (.docx) document, properly corrected and incremented with
opportune add-ups, as a point of </DIV>
<DIV>departure or, perhaps, as an initial input for a more comprehensive
document that may, opportunely, serve as a </DIV>
<DIV>live document which would contain a comprehensive plan that may justify in
the many involved aspects, the </DIV>
<DIV>needed changes that are being required, in the context. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I can advance to all of you that, in INPE case, we will need to be legally
and solidly justified under a proposal for </DIV>
<DIV>(hopefully) becoming elligible to apply for a regular institutional
contribution to a legally exhisting external entity </DIV>
<DIV>(which? CCSDS does not “exist”, as an admnistrative, legal organization
...) that may organize and instrument the </DIV>
<DIV>role that NASA is diligently exercising as the executive instrument
for CCSDS, since early ‘80s and of CCSDS </DIV>
<DIV>before ISO, since early ‘90s. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As Nestor and you commented, there may be “distributed practices” by CCSDS
members that may significanlty </DIV>
<DIV>alleviate the task to be assigned for such a legally existing “external
entity” to admnistratively manage CCSDS </DIV>
<DIV>and CCSDS-ISO TC20/SC13 initiatives. Among such an alleviating tasks, seems
that potential candidates are: </DIV>
<DIV>SANA/CSA(?), local expenses for the realization of CCSDS meetings taken up
by the hosting agency, others(?) ...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would propose that in our coming CMC meeting in April we may have in
hands a reference in the form of a </DIV>
<DIV>living document, perhaps, inspired or, as a “start-up”, departing from the,
properly reviewed and corrected, </DIV>
<DIV>enclosed one, that may serve us as a reference instrument of work and as an
organized memory for housing: </DIV>
<DIV>important conclusions, pendences, and updating and expanded
information.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Please, feel free to comment on the considerations being expressed in this
message and enclosure.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Kind regards,</DIV>
<DIV>EDUARDO BERGAMINI</DIV>
<DIV>INPE Representative to CCSDS</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>ENCLOSURE:</STRONG>
<CCSDS.and.CCSDS-ISO.TC20-SC13.docx></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><FONT color=#646b86><B>From:</B> </FONT><A
title=james.afarin@nasa.gov href="mailto:james.afarin@nasa.gov"><FONT
color=#646b86>Afarin, James (HQ-CG000)</FONT></A><FONT color=#646b86>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#646b86><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 13, 2016 5:21
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#646b86><B>To:</B> </FONT><A title=Juan.Miro@esa.int
href="mailto:Juan.Miro@esa.int"><FONT
color=#646b86>Juan.Miro@esa.int</FONT></A><FONT color=#646b86> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#646b86><B>Cc:</B> </FONT><A
title=cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org
href="mailto:cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><FONT
color=#646b86>cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</FONT></A><FONT color=#646b86> ;
</FONT><A title=NickT@aiaa.org href="mailto:NickT@aiaa.org"><FONT
color=#646b86>Nick Tongson</FONT></A><FONT color=#646b86> ; </FONT><A
title=CMC@mailman.ccsds.org href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org"><FONT
color=#646b86>CCSDS Management Council
(CMC@mailman.ccsds.org)(CMC@mailman.ccsds.org)</FONT></A><FONT color=#646b86> ;
</FONT><A title=Nestor.Peccia@esa.int href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"><FONT
color=#646b86>Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</FONT></A><FONT color=#646b86> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#646b86><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CMC] FW: ISO Affiliation with
CCSDS</FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Juan,</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Helvetica,sans-serif>I was planning to make this discussion as a
brain storming session for assisting with the </FONT><FONT face=sans-serif>cost
of administering the CCSDS secretariat including SANA. I will set the
stage and explain the problem and expect a discussion and suggestions from
the membership for the way forward.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thank you,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>James</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dr. James Afarin </DIV><BR>Space Data Standards Manager <BR>Space
Communications and Navigation Division<BR>Office: 202-358-5221 <BR>Mobile:
202-549-6496</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </SPAN>"<A
href="mailto:Juan.Miro@esa.int">Juan.Miro@esa.int</A>" <<A
href="mailto:Juan.Miro@esa.int">Juan.Miro@esa.int</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </SPAN>Wednesday, January 13, 2016 1:55
PM<BR><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </SPAN>James Afarin <<A
href="mailto:james.afarin@nasa.gov">james.afarin@nasa.gov</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </SPAN>"CCSDS Management Council (<A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org">CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</A>) (<A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org">CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</A>)" <<A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org">CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</A>>, "<A
href="mailto:cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</A>"
<<A
href="mailto:cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</A>>,
Nick Tongson <<A href="mailto:NickT@aiaa.org">NickT@aiaa.org</A>>, "<A
href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</A>" <<A
href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</A>><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN>Re: [CMC] FW: ISO Affiliation with
CCSDS<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Dear James,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif>I am one of the ones that cannot make it on 20 January at the
time proposed. If the meeting remains as scheduled I will be represented by
Nestor Peccia.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>In order to prepare
for this meeting, I would appreciate if you could distribute a list of the
points you want to discuss and what kind of position do you expect from the CMC
members and what is the decision that needs to be taken; consequences for CCSDS
secretariat etc.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>If you want other
Agencies to take care of anything or contribute to the financing should know
what are we talking about.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif>Regards</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Juan</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1
face=sans-serif>From: </FONT><FONT
size=1 face=sans-serif>"Afarin, James (HQ-CG000)" <<A
href="mailto:james.afarin@nasa.gov">james.afarin@nasa.gov</A>></FONT><BR><FONT
color=#5f5f5f size=1
face=sans-serif>To: </FONT><FONT
size=1 face=sans-serif>"CCSDS Management Council (<A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org">CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</A>) (<A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org">CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</A>)" <<A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org">CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</A>></FONT><BR><FONT
color=#5f5f5f size=1
face=sans-serif>Cc: </FONT><FONT
size=1 face=sans-serif>"Nick Tongson" <<A
href="mailto:NickT@aiaa.org">NickT@aiaa.org</A>></FONT><BR><FONT
color=#5f5f5f size=1
face=sans-serif>Date: </FONT><FONT
size=1 face=sans-serif>13/01/2016 19:34</FONT><BR><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1
face=sans-serif>Subject: </FONT><FONT
size=1 face=sans-serif>[CMC] FW: ISO Affiliation with CCSDS</FONT><BR><FONT
color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>Sent
by: </FONT><FONT size=1
face=sans-serif><A
href="mailto:cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cmc-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</A></FONT><BR>
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<BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Hi All,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif>Happy New Year. As you know we have scheduled a telecon to
talk about Managing the cost of administering the CCSDS secretariat on next
Wednesday 1/20/16 at 8:30 am US Eastern Time. Some of the CMC member will
not be available for this time slot. I have checked the Doodle results
that Nick originally sent out and there is not any specific time slot that
everyone will be available so I think it is the best to keep the original
time. <B>I will talk to you next Wednesday 1/20/16 at 8:30 am US Eastern
Time.</B></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Thank you,</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>James</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif>Dr. James Afarin </FONT><BR><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif><BR>Space Data Standards Manager <BR>Space Communications and
Navigation Division<BR>Office: 202-358-5221 <BR>Mobile: 202-549-6496</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT size=2><B>From: </B>James Afarin <</FONT><A
href="mailto:james.afarin@nasa.gov"><FONT color=blue
size=2><U>james.afarin@nasa.gov</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2>><B><BR>Date:
</B>Monday, November 30, 2015 12:16 PM<B><BR>To: </B>"CCSDS Management Council
(</FONT><A href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org"><FONT color=blue
size=2><U>CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2>) (</FONT><A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org"><FONT color=blue
size=2><U>CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2>)" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:CMC@mailman.ccsds.org"><FONT color=blue
size=2><U>CMC@mailman.ccsds.org</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2>><B><BR>Subject:
</B>ISO Affiliation with CCSDS</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Hi
All,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>CCSDS secretariat is
considering to sever the CCSDS affiliation with ISO due to cost of
implementation of ISO requirements and associated fees. The consequence
are the CCSDS standards will not be ISO standards and there will be no ISO
TC20/SC13 and ISO TC20/SC14 affiliation with CCSDS. I need to make an
urgent decision in this matter so please provide your input by COB Thursday
December 3. Also a formal CMC poll will be provided for your official vote
very soon.</FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif>Thank you,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif>James</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Dr. James
Afarin </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR>Space Data Standards Manager
<BR>Space Communications and Navigation Division<BR>Office: 202-358-5221
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