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<div>Thank you for the clarification. Just two additional notes:
<div>1) in IEEE a new standard activity has been established -> P1964 Standard for collaborative orbital data sharing (<a href="https://standards.ieee.org/ieee/1964/11979/">https://standards.ieee.org/ieee/1964/11979/</a>): any overlap or interest with CCSDS?</div>
<div>2) is it possible to have a teams bridge for the CESG sessions? I might be able to join to the morning sessions.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi Daniel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I will bring in some discussion points regarding FRM management and its relationship to CCSDS in general.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-Erik <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 12, 2025 13:52<br>
<b>To:</b> Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de; Lux, Jim (US 3370) <james.p.lux@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cesg@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [CESG] CESG and CESG/CMC Meetings - Draft Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Tomaso, Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Thank you for the feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a id="OWAAMA546A063AD7644598FF58AB56D0C1DEE" href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;text-decoration:none">@Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In the preparation meeting it was noted by Mehran that he is only available on Monday and thus the MOIMS report will take place then. I will cover a shorter MOIMS Executive Report for the CMC on Tuesday. For the other
areas, we agreed we would have the report only once in the combined CESG/CMC meetings to become more efficient and also because we only have 1.5 days of CESG only meetings this time. I want to ensure there is ample time to discuss important topics and pain
points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">For the additional points, I will add them, however some feedback already:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">1/ We will have a major revision of the Yellow Book in any case as result of the Tiger Team work. I would suggest we include the Orange Book update in this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">2/ I will add this under paint points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a id="OWAAM01A0D07DEA904C78A25FB3C6BBD67D08" href="mailto:james.p.lux@jpl.nasa.gov"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;text-decoration:none">@Lux, Jim (US 3370)</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">To be added under LunaNet Discussion Part 1:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I added a separate Agenda Point for SANA (under your moderation. Do we need as well the SANA Team?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I added the stakeholder/ customer discussion to the Prioritization discussion – I believe it fits well there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">For the Tiger Team –</span>in the CESG call it was suggested that you should be part as well. But we could take you out if you are not interested in this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 June 2025 22:33<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniel Fischer <<a href="mailto:Daniel.Fischer@esa.int">Daniel.Fischer@esa.int</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CESG] CESG and CESG/CMC Meetings - Draft Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Daniel, </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Just a clarification, day 1 starts with the MOIMS presentation and then we proceed with other topics. But when are the other areas going to give their presentation for discussion with CESG? I see them all only during
the afternoon of day 2 devoted to CMC/CESG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">1) last Fall it was agreed with Peter to have some minor amendments on the yellow book about the nature of orange books, to remove any ambiguity about the fact they can contain both bluish or magentish content. Where
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">2) as raised by CMC after my resolution to merge MIA and VOICE into a new group MIVA, we should discuss the way forward for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">On 12. Jun 2025, at 22:12, Daniel Fischer via CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I am attaching the draft agenda for the CESG meeting on 16<sup>th</sup> June and 17<sup>th</sup> June morning and the joined CESG/CMC meeting 17<sup>tH</sup> afternoon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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