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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">yes this new version with yellow boxed looks better to me. I’ll use this, thank you for the support.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tomaso<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 24. April 2024 18:00<br>
<b>An:</b> de Cola, Tomaso <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de>; Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov>; cesg@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com; Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Updated CSS Area slides for Lunar Interop Forum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">Dear Tomaso,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">I agree with you about both the “psychedelic” aspects and the need for words. When I sketched these “domains” I took the easy way out and just used the same colors as the Area,
but it did not seem best to me either.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">I’ve attached a revision that might work better. I tried out a few contrasting colors and think this sort of bright yellow might be the best of the lot. It draws attention
and doesn’t fight with the other colors. Hopefully it is also not too “psychedelic”.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">As for the “words” part, that is up to each of us. When I present the animated chart I’ll quickly point out the features of each area and their extent. When you present your
Area you get to reinforce the domain of services in whatever way best suits the point you are making in the context of lunar interoperability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">I think that will work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">Best regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Aptos;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Aptos;color:black"><a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a> <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 12:21</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Aptos;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>, Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <<a href="mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov">erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>,
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<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a> <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>, Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] AW: Updated CSS Area slides for Lunar Interop Forum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Peter,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">conceptually I agree with you, since the additional boxes you added in the two charts give the full extension of CSS and SIS. What I’m a bit scared of is that we end up in “psychedelic” picture
with so many colours overlapping that could make the understanding even more difficult. Probably boxes (or polygons) in a different colour could work better. I’m however still convinced that a verbal description would make everything much clearer.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">@Erik: what do you think?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Tomaso</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 23. April 2024 23:48<br>
<b>An:</b> Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <<a href="mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov">erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>; de Cola, Tomaso <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>>;
<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>; Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Updated CSS Area slides for Lunar Interop Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">I get the issue that both Tomaso and Erik have brought up.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">I will point out that because we are using the animated graphic there will be time (albeit brief) to address the coverage issue up front.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">And you could, if you wished to do a little “chartsmanship”, add extensions from the core CSS and SIS “lanes” to incorporate more of the “territory” that is covered. Might look
like pgs 12 (SIS) & 13 (CSS) in the attached update to my slides.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos">Cheers, Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Aptos"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Aptos;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Aptos;color:black">CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) via CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 10:22</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Aptos;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a> <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>>,
<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a> <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a> <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>, Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [CESG] Updated CSS Area slides for Lunar Interop Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello Tomaso,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you for the inputs. I will make the editorial changes as you have suggested and as we agreed at the CESG meeting earlier today. Regarding the separation of the areas with regard to the "Kearney
graphic" I would argue that even for the CSS area the nice little boundary is not quite so. And I noted this when putting the slide together and had already planned to make a verbal remark about the mission operations center in fact actually being in the diagram
insomuch as it interfaces with the various agency ground communication stations which is not shown when it sliced up the way it is on the picture. But I think ultimately the picture is good enough to help the audience navigate the different areas it about
which we will be speaking.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">-Erik</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">
<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a> <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 23, 2024 2:23<br>
<b>To:</b> Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <<a href="mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov">erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>;
<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>; Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] AW: Updated CSS Area slides for Lunar Interop Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Erik,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">thank you for sharing the slides.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Just a few editorial comments (maybe relevant also for the other area slides):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">In the cover slide, I’d add “(CSS)” after “Cross Support Services Area”, since CSS is then used in the following slide.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">On Slide 3, on the top-right corner there is again the picture from slide 2, where only the CSS area is highlighted. I’m wondering whether
this is really needed, since the picture is quite small (ok it will be displayed on a huge display I guess) and as such not so much readable. Moreover, we have presented the CCSDS area sketch already in the previous slide and as such I’m not sure repeating
it here will give any added value.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Just a note on the famous picture on slide 2, the separation of applicability contexts for CSS, SOIS, and SLS areas is quite clear, as it corresponds to the vertical boxes all with different colours.
For SIS and MOIMS as well (I’d say), it is not really like this. If you check the lines indicated in the picture, the red (MOIMS) and magenta (SIS) the are almost e2e from the onboard assets until the final users. As such, probably this aspect should be made
clear verbally by SIS and MOIMS during the presentation just to avoid misunderstanding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Concerning SIS slides, they will come in a few hours.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Talk to you all later today,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Tomaso</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Von:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) via CESG<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 22. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">April 2024 21:17<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Massaquoi, Amber S <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>; Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [CESG] Updated CSS Area slides for Lunar Interop Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">CESG Colleagues,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Based on the updated slides between Ignacio and Peter last week, attached please find an updated set of slides for the CSS area. I look forward to an interesting discussion tomorrow.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">-Erik</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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