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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I tend to agree with you. These are all diagrams taken from existing CCSDS books, where probably the exercise was to label protocol
layers according to the “vicinity” to corresponding ISO/OSI protocol stack layers. As such, IP is traditionally considered the network layer and what above is either a transport layer (TCP or UDP) or an overlay. It would be good to re-align the terminology
(and probably also the diagram) to the views given in the SSI book. I also think that the SISG report dated 2009 (if I’m not wrong) advocating for the use of DTN in space provides some more precise terminology or diagrams.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And now that people are getting interested into IP islands and some even argue that IP could be used end-to-end in space, these diagrams
could indeed create that confusion you were noting down.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Happy to further iterate on this point,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tomaso<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 3. April 2024 18:49<br>
<b>An:</b> de Cola, Tomaso <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com; james.schier-1@nasa.gov; Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov>; Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int; angela.d.peura@nasa.gov; cesg@mailman.ccsds.org; murata.masaya@jaxa.jp<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: SIS Talk to IPNSIG, was ... Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Tomaso,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for sending this. I think you did a great job of pulling together existing CCSDS (and IOAG) intro materials and merging in newer materials relating to SIS efforts. Including the IOAG
“Lunar Mission” overview slides (slides 16 & 17 ) is, I believe, a great motivator for why we need the whole IPN suite of standards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">If there is one thing in these materials, and others, that causes confusion it is the distinction drawn on slide 24 between what is highlighted in red as the “Network Layer”, which only includes
IP and Encap, and the upper layers labelled “Bundle Layer” that are not highlighted. This upper layer includes BP (but not BPSec), LTP, and all that CLA stuff. The reason why I find this troubling is that it can leave the impression that BP is ONLY an “overlay”
network and that IP is really the “Network Layer”. In reality, as is shown on slides 29 & 30, we are advocating for a DTN “backbone network” that is used to connect “IP regions”. Slide 30 makes that pretty clear, but I think we could do a better job of labelling
the DTN parts and the IP parts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Maybe this feels like I’m being “too picky”, but I think we have something of an uphill battle in getting folks to understand why having the DTN Solar System Internet (SSI)
<b><i>backbone</i></b> is so important in enabling these “islands of IP” to communicate effectively. Given the ubiquity of IP in our terrestrial world it is too easy for people to think that it’s really IP everywhere, but that cannot be the case in space.
I think we all understand this, but I do not know that we are communicating it as effectively as we might.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Happy to talk about this at more length.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">And thanks for the great job.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a> <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 1:44</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a> <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>,
<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>>, Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>,
<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a> <<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a>>,
<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>,
<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a> <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>,
<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>AW: SIS Talk to IPNSIG, was ... Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi Peter,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">yes here attached. I was planning to distribute them with you all well before the talk but then this action stayed in my TODO list… Sorry for that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As mentioned a few weeks ago, it is more like an introduction to CCSDS and details about SIS area rather than an actual deep dive, since I had roughly only 45
min for the talk. I’ve however to say that many people were quite interested to see what’s happening in CCSDS and in particular which activities are carried out and which are planned next. That’s why I think it important to do some good “commercial” of what
CCSDS is doing, since I had the impression that obviously many stakeholders use our standards for system/product developments but then have a little view on the actual CCSDS mission and framework. As such, at the end of my talk, I have received the usual question
as to why CCSDS is so slow in coming up with new recommendations…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tomaso</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 1. April 2024 18:51<br>
<b>An:</b> de Cola, Tomaso <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>; Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>;
<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a>; <a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">
angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>; <a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> SIS Talk to IPNSIG, was ... Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Tomaso,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I was just looking for some materials on space internetworking and security and fell across this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I assume that you gave this talk on 14 March. Would you be willing to share the slides with the rest of us who were not present/</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks, Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a> <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, March 1, 2024 at 12:43</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>,
<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a> <<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a>>, Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>,
<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>>,
<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a> <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>,
<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a> <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>,
<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a> <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>AW: [EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">on March 14th I’m going to give an introduction to CCSDS SIS area activities at IPNSIG (<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/www.ipnsig.org/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!J-nIV4zd7yV9BYvLrs1ctVLv0FarmDfeulHFlG1e1_Su8I_aKAjFyn6kLF33gya0cMSkiyTtoY9F27BRU92mRidORa0z-n-2$">https://www.ipnsig.org/</a>).
I was thinking to share some information about this initiative at the end of the talk, although the date of the talk is relatively close to the deadline we set to collect the contributions. If you have any objections about my proposal, please let me know.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Tomaso</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Shames, Peter M (US 312B) via CESG<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 29. Februar 2024 22:37<br>
<b>An:</b> Klaus-Juergen Schulz <<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a>>; Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>;
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"">村田 眞哉</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>>; Schier, James (HQ-CG000) <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Massaquoi Amber <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>; Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences] <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>; CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum<br>
<b>Priorität:</b> Hoch</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please use announcement v1a (attached). Angela pointed out (thank you) that I had written “pointing” instead of “positioning” as the “P” in PNT.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Teach me to rush.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sorry, Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 1:14 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Klaus-Juergen Schulz <<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a>>, Sami Asmar <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>,
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic";color:black">村田 眞哉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>>, Jim Schier <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences]" <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>, Amber Massaquoi <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>, CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Attached are the two revised files for the Lunar Interoperability Forum that include PNT as well as comm, and otherwise clean up wording.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best regards, Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 1:54 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Sami Asmar <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>,
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic";color:black">村田 眞哉</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>>, Jim Schier <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>>,
Peter Shames <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences]" <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>, Amber Massaquoi <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear Sami,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Yes, please add “Position, Navigation, Timing (PNT)” spelled out in the announcement. It was an oversight on the CESG side on Tuesday.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Klaus-Juergen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 29, 2024 1:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"">村田 眞哉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>>; Schier, James (HQ-CG000) <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>>;
Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences] <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>; Massaquoi Amber <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>>; Klaus-Juergen Schulz <<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter/Klaus-Juergen: Did the CESG intend for this to be limited to Communications?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I agree we should add the other keywords.
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 4:03</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>, Schier, James (HQ-CG000) <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>>, Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences] <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>, Massaquoi Amber <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Hi Sami.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Because the following theme just touches lunar
</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">communications</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">,
I was wondering about lunar </span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">navigation</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">.
It might be better to add keywords </span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">navigation</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">
or </span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">PNT</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">
in the theme so that people from navigation community would be also participating without a problem.
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Theme: </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Bringing together members of the Lunar communications “community” to discuss drivers, opportunities,
and means to foster development and deployment of interoperable (and secure) communications systems</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Masaya</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Masaya Murata</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Japan Aerospace eXploration Agency</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Phone: 050-3362-3985</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Email: <a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">村田 眞哉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>>;
Schier, James (HQ-CG000) <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>>; Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences] <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>; Massaquoi Amber <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I think is should within scope. Navigation tools and techniques must be interoperable.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 3:57</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Asmar, Sami W (US 9100) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>, Schier, James (HQ-CG000) <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>>, Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences] <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>, Massaquoi Amber <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] RE: Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Hi Sami,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Thank you very much for the wonderful news.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Regarding the theme, lunar
</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">navigation</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">
or </span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">PNT</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">”
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">is not within the scope of this forum?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Yu Gothic",sans-serif">Masaya</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Masaya Murata</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Japan Aerospace eXploration Agency</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Phone: 050-3362-3985</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 29, 2024 8:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Schier, James (HQ-CG000) <<a href="mailto:james.schier-1@nasa.gov">james.schier-1@nasa.gov</a>>;
</span><span lang="JA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">村田 眞哉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <<a href="mailto:murata.masaya@jaxa.jp">murata.masaya@jaxa.jp</a>>;
Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Peura, Angela D. (HQ-CG000)[Agile Decision Sciences] <<a href="mailto:angela.d.peura@nasa.gov">angela.d.peura@nasa.gov</a>>; Massaquoi Amber <<a href="mailto:AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com">AMassaquoi@asrcfederal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Moving forward with Lunar Interoperability Forum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Jim and Masaya,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I wanted to let you know that the Forum will take place. We are changing it a little bit to separate from the procurement/tender process by NASA and ESA and make more a community forum for exchange
of relevant information.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Workshop title:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> “Lunar Interoperability Forum”</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Date:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> 7 May 24 in Washington, DC</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Place: </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">US Dept of Commerce (NOTE: may need to work access issues)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Sponsors:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">CCSDS & IOAG</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Chair:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Sami Asmar</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Theme: </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Bringing together members of the Lunar communications “community” to discuss drivers, opportunities,
and means to foster development and deployment of interoperable (and secure) communications systems</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">CCSDS objective</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">: Encourage community members to participate in CCSDS Standards activities, there are
no other data standards orgs aside from the IETF DTN</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I know JAXA will have a presentation for us. We are now preparing the agenda and getting ready to send the announcement but wanted you to know first.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Jim will also be one of our speakers, of course.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Sami</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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