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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Following Erik’s email, I also looked into the excel sheet prepared by Peter with all remarks&iterations made by him, Mehran, and further extended by Erik. I’ve also added a few comments (updated
version herewith attached, also uploaded on cwe).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In general, as already commented during the telco a few weeks ago, I don’t see unrecoverable points. In particular:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This is a revision of an existing blue book and I think it’s not appropriate to move it to a different track (i.e. magenta), since this revision
is indeed part of the current WG charter.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The main critical points are in my opinion confined to the first sections in terms of definition, terminology and overall scope. Then, the
security implications are also currently vaguely addressed, whereby a rework of this will be probably necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some of the points have been in part already answered by Mehran (and in general by the WG), so that probably implementing the remaining points
should not be an exhausting exercise.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Last but not the least, I know that the preparation of the book has been subject to thorough iterations in the WG in order to take into account
all concerns/requirements exposed by the different agencies. Moreover I have the impression the delayed agency review is affecting also books under preparation in the same WG or at least within the overall MOIMS area. I certainly concur that a book can go
to agency review only when fulfils certain CESG quality principles, but we cannot certainly delay the process forever, more importantly if the book is a (in my opinion light) revision of an existing one. Maybe some points could have been even directly raised
during agency review.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tomaso<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) via CESG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2022 02:31<br>
<b>To:</b> cesg@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] MAL PIDs spreadsheet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Dear CESG Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">At the July 18 meeting I agreed to take a look at the spreadsheet that Peter prepared and to check the PIDs listed therein against the latest MAL document. Essentially to perform a
review of the review. Accordingly, please see the attached spreadsheet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">My conclusion is that, on balance, there does indeed need to be some revision of the document prior to agency review. Having said that, I will note, that as I was on vacation and did
not participate in the vote, these are of course not any kind of conditions but rather hopefully some assistance in sorting out the PIDs that were recorded for the vote. To be more specific, my findings can be summarized as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Terminology is used in multiple senses in different parts of the document and/or not defined in the terminology section; this
tends to lead some definitions that are circular (e.g., “…attribute extends ‘Attribute’…”)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">The PICs proforma is not properly stated (see comments in the spreadsheet)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">It seems that some sort of requirements on the transport layer should be stated<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Cybersecurity needs to be addressed<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I will also note there are some of the PIDs where I think Peter stated some things incorrectly and/or I did not really see the issue. Perhaps this is a case where the definition of
success is getting everybody angry at you :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">-Erik
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Ps, the spreadsheet has also been uploaded to the CWE space used for the July 18 meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) via CESG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2022 12:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [CESG] MAL PIDs spreadsheet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Hello Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">As you may recall, I volunteered to take a look at the MO MAL Agency Review CESG Poll PIDs and check them against the latest MAL document. I see the presentation, dated July 11 in
the CWE for CESG, but I do not find the spreadsheet there. Can you please either send or (probably better) post the spreadsheet? Thank you.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Best regards,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Erik Barkley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Cross Support Services Area Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/www.ccsds.org/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!Y0McA6Xa7qWSD4GzCyzGhggymTsKhLx6dMHJiWUY4A3Ly3w10ibGmgeOXvMf5Lrq9nyAxLFrYw$">www.ccsds.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">+1 818.393.4972<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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