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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the clarification.  I did not see it in the polls, but it appears you found it in the MoM.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And  yes, we may “<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">discuss this point again in 3 years</span>”.  Let’s see how it goes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Mario Merri <Mario.Merri@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 4:13 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org>, CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re: CESG Fall2020 - Minutes of Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi Peter,</span>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">regarding your comment  to the CESG MoM: "<i>I did not recall this ever being voted on, so I actually reviewed the CMC polls.  This question of combining two separate kinds of functions into one
 document was never explicitly voted on by the CMC</i>", I have always been impressed by your selective memory. Please have a look to the resolution below that you can find in the MoM of the CMC of Spring 2017:</span>
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<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/cwe.ccsds.org/cmc/Private/CMC*20Meeting*20Minutes*20and*20Presentations/2017*20Spring*20-*20St.*20Petersburg/Minutes*20of*20Meeting/CMC*20Spring*202017*20MoM*20Final.pdf__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!f7Cq72Q0xUs1I9ThxGBw4Tgx6FKFfqsG10v7yh8MmiZ2a4vTF7dkQMGSflNmJdMds0frXSxj$"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">https://cwe.ccsds.org/cmc/Private/CMC%20Meeting%20Minutes%20and%20Presentations/2017%20Spring%20-%20St.%20Petersburg/Minutes%20of%20Meeting/CMC%20Spring%202017%20MoM%20Final.pdf</span></a>
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<i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">Resolution 2017-06-03:</span></i>
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<i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">The CMC resolves that, after having reviewed the MP&S proposal for developing one blue book that it agrees with the approach to develop one blue book as stated in the charter and the
 current blue book project instead of dividing the book into separate projects.</span></i>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We discuss this point again in 3 years. regards,</span>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">__Mario</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M\(US 312B\) via CESG" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, "Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"CCSDS CESG --" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">30/11/2020 20:23</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re:  CESG Fall2020 - Minutes of Meeting</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"CESG" <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<p style="margin:0in">More comments, on the comments, attached.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in">If these MOM are to be meaningful they must accurately reflect what was stated and what was agreed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in">Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:51 AM<b><br>
To: </b>"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><b><br>
Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [CESG] CESG Fall2020 - Minutes of Meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Margerita,</span>
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       Some SLS Remarks o top of the other ones.</span> <br>
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Regards</span> <br>
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Gian Paolo</span> <br>
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From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Mario.Merri@esa.int</span>
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To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span>
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Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</span>
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Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">24-11-20 11:31</span>
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Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [CESG] CESG Fall2020 - Minutes of Meeting</span>
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Sent by:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"CESG" <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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Hi Margherita,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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my comments embedded.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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Regards,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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__Mario</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <br>
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From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">23/11/2020 14:24</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[CESG] CESG Fall2020 - Minutes of Meeting</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Dear All,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
please find attached the draft CESG MoM , <br>
If you have comments, please let me know by 26th November c.o.b.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Kind regards,<br>
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