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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry Gippo, but there seems to be another mis-understanding here.
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<p class="MsoNormal">As stated clearly in the email that I sent on 23 June, this was not the formal request for approval that will be sent via the normal channels. This was, instead, a courtesy request offering the submitters of PIDs and RIDs an early opportunity
to signal whether they agreed, or not. As it says, quoted from below:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">Accordingly, we are asking that the SEA SAWG, and the reviewers who submitted PIDs or RIDs, review this final document and either concur with the changes, as made, or
request further clarifications/adjustments.</span><span style="color:#0070C0"> </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It was our intent, as a WG that is dealing with cross-cutting issues, to attend to these within the WG before we invoked the formal process within the CESG.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We will, of course, follow the formal CESG voting procedures when we submit the document for the formal CESG (and CMC) review for approval to publish.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 10:42 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Peter,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> as you sent out the dispositions on 23 June 2020, I fear you can consider silent approval only after 23 July.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Regards</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Thomas Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"'CCSDS CESG --'" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">02-07-20 19:18</span>
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The dispositions for all of the PID inputs, from Gippo, Erik, and Jonathan, as well as the other RID inputs from Dan Smith, Marek, David Berry, Xiongwen He, and a couple of other reviewers, are all covered in the disposition spreadsheet that is attached, for
your edification. We sent it out last week, on 23 June 2020, along with the final version of the document. So far we have gotten closure only from Gippo and Dan Smith. We have asked the others to provide feedback by CoB 7 July.
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After that time, to avoid further delays, we will take silence as agreement and proceed with the formal request for the CESG second review.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Date: </b>Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 10:10 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:#004080">Peter: I do not recall seeing closure of Erik’s and Jonathan’s conditions. —Tom</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) [</span><a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]
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Sent:</b> Thursday, July 02, 2020 12:54 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int<b><br>
Cc:</b> CCSDS CESG --; Tom Gannett<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Ok. You win. <o:p></o:p></p>
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The SAWG screwed up. And your PID is withdrawn.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Now can we move on to get this published?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Thanks, Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 2:31 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Peter, <br>
sorry for being picky, but - as the footnote was not there at CESG Poll Time - YOUR solution is to change YOUR disposition to add nothing.</span>
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This is perfectly OK with withdrawing my useless PID and leaving you the option to do whatever you like.</span>
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Gian Paolo.</span> <br>
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From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
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To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span>
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Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, "CCSDS CESG --" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">02-07-20 00:32</span>
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Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sorry if it felt like a "game". That was never our intent. Having looked back into the history of the RID/PID processing I now recall what occurred. It if obvious, in retrospect, that we seem to have gotten some wires crossed
within the SAWG in how the agreed resolution was translated into the final text.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">The agreed resolution was as you showed it. I.e.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Accept, with mods</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: Existing text</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#008250">To: There is no sensible EPP binding for MAL, but it could appear in a protocol diagram (or note) relative to CFDP or DTN</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Please note that this text, as agreed by the SAWG, did not say "Add a footnote". What it did say was "there is no sensible binding for EPP". Unfortunately, when Roger Thompson encountered this he read it as "insert a footnote",
and he did so. That was an error, and was not what was intended. I guess we could have been clearer and just rejected your PID outright at the time, based on that technical assertion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">As stated earlier, the fix is to remove the footnote. We will do that promptly. Sorry for any confusion and thanks for agreeing to withdraw the PID.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks, Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 3:08 PM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Peter,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Just to be clear:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
1) I make a PID based on 371x0g0_CESG_Approval.pdf that never mentions EPP</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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2) YOU send me a disposition that says PID accepted with modification and propose to add a footnote (as visible in 371x0g0_PID dispositions 23June20 accept-ps.pdf)</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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3) I say that I accept this disposition and I just I ask to follow good practice referencing the document</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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4) YOU reply that "</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">the correct fix for this is to remove that footnote</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">", i.e. the opposite of YOUR disposition</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Sorry, this is a game I am not ready to play.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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I copy CESG to confirm that my PID is withdrawn.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Regards</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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Gian Paolo</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <br>
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From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">01-07-20 21:30</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks Gippo.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 12:06 PM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Peter, I withdraw my PID.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Do whatever you like</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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Gian Paolo</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <br>
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From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">01-07-20 20:53</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear Gippo,</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">I really wish to avoid misunderstandings. There was never a reference to EPP in this document. A mention of it was added, but only in a footnote in sec 7.3.2, on pg 7-5, in response to your original PID. This was to clarify,
for you, that there is no binding for EPP, only for SPP. </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think the correct fix for this is to remove that footnote, since that is the only point at which EPP is mentioned at all.</span>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Is that clear?</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks, Peter</span> <br>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 11:23 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span>
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Peter, <br>
I think there is a misunderstanding and I do not go further reading about 524.1-B.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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To avoid polemics and to save energy, I am accepting your change as shown in the snapshot.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Since this change mentions a CCSDS blue book, it is "good practice" IMO to add the reference to the book.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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In a blue book this reference would be added in the informative annex, in a green this option is not available.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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So simple, editorial completion. No hidden purpose, <br>
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Ciao</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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Gian Paolo</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F"><br>
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From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">01-07-20 19:18</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Hi Gippo,</span> <span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
</span> <span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
Thanks for taking the time to review the revisions to the spec. I appreciate your diligence in this regard.</span>
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</span> <span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
I do, however, have an issue with your request in regards this PID. I completely understand your desire to add a reference to the EPP, in addition to the existing reference to the SPP. This would appear to be a simple, parallel, sort of change and in many
other circumstances would be easy to agree to. But in this case I do not think this is technically viable.</span>
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I draw your attention to the requirement, within the MO MAL, for there to be a documented "technology binding". There is no existing, documented, technology binding for the EPP, only for the SPP. If you will look in the CCSDS 524x1b1, the " MISSION OPERATIONS—MAL
SPACE PACKET TRANSPORT BINDING AND BINARY ENCODING" you will only find a reference to the SPP, CCSDS 133x0b1. There is no mention of EPP. Furthermore, that MAL SPP binding includes a very complicated diagram showing how the fields of the MAL abstract message
are to be mapped to the SPP fields, including primary header and extended secondary header. I attach that diagram here.
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Since this relies on mapping the MO MAL fields to the APID and also to a specific secondary header, neither of which the EPP has, and there is no documented binding for EPP, I do not see how we can accept this. This is not to say that an EPP binding could
not be developed, just that there is not now one and creation of one seems unlikely.
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I hope you concur. <br>
Thanks, Peter </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 9:39 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span> <o:p>
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Peter,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
The disposition to my PID satisfies the condition if the </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Encapsulation Packet Protocol</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> is also added among reference documents in section 1.6 (where
SPP is already mentioned with superseded version 1).</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Regards</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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Gian Paolo</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <br>
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From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"SEA-SA" <sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Gian Paolo Calzolari" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, "Erik Barkley" <barkleye@pacbell.net>, "Dan Smith" <danford.s.smith@nasa.gov>, "Berry, David S (US 3920)" <david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov>,
"'Prochazka, Marek (JSC-OA111)[EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY]'" <marek.prochazka@esa.int>, "'Hickey, Joseph P. (GSFC-582.0)[VANTAGE SYSTEMS INC]'" <joseph.p.hickey@nasa.gov>, "Wilmot, Jonathan J. (GSFC-5820)" <jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov>, "Mario Merri" <Mario.Merri@esa.int>,
"'Xionwen He'" <hexw501@hotmail.com>, "Poole, Eric L. (GSFC-5990)" <eric.l.poole@nasa.gov></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">23-06-20 23:25</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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Dear SEA SAWG and other ASL reviewers, <br>
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The three editors of the ASL ADD GB (Krosley, Thompson, Shames) have completed our work of updating the document to resolve issues raised in the CESG review and also issues raised by other reviewers. All of these files are now out in the SEA SA CWE area. The
final document, in Word and PDF form, is to be found here: <br>
<u><span style="color:blue"><br>
</span></u></span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2FApp%20%2D%20Support%20Layer%20Green%20Book%2FASL%20ADD%20Final%20Doc%20%2D%20files&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D&"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#0082BF">https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2FApp%20%2D%20Support%20Layer%20Green%20Book%2FASL%20ADD%20Final%20Doc%20%2D%20files&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D&</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt">
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The separate files of revised figures for the SO materials are in that folder as well. The files of revised figures for the MO materials are in a separate location:
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A version of the Word doc that has track changes on (371x0g0_PID dispositions 22June20 track final) is to be found in the following folder along with other work products including the tracking spreadsheet where we recorded the SAWG resolutions and the final
status:</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">The final copy of that tracking spreadsheet is attached here so that you can easily determine the status of your PIDs and/or RIDs. All of the raw and transcribed RID & PID files, in various states of completion , are also in
that folder.</span> <br>
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