<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Peter,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">
Just to be clear:</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">1) I make a PID
based on 371x0g0_CESG_Approval.pdf that never mentions EPP</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">2) YOU send me
a disposition that says PID accepted with modification and propose to add
a footnote (as visible in 371x0g0_PID dispositions 23June20 accept-ps.pdf)</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">3) I say that
I accept this disposition and I just I ask to follow good practice referencing
the document</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">4) YOU reply that
"</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">the correct fix for this is
to remove that footnote</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">",
i.e. the opposite of YOUR disposition</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Sorry, this is
a game I am not ready to play.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I copy CESG to
confirm that my PID is withdrawn.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Regards</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Gian Paolo</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Tom
Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">01-07-20
21:30</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks
Gippo.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 12:06 PM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Peter,
I withdraw my PID.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Do whatever you like</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Gian Paolo</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Tom
Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">01-07-20
20:53</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span></p>
<div align=center>
<hr noshade></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Dear
Gippo,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
really wish to avoid misunderstandings. There was never a reference
to EPP in this document. A mention of it was added, but only in a
footnote in sec 7.3.2, on pg 7-5, in response to your original PID. This
was to clarify, for you, that there is no binding for EPP, only for SPP.
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I
think the correct fix for this is to remove that footnote, since that is
the only point at which EPP is mentioned at all.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Is
that clear?</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Thanks,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>From:
</b>Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 11:23 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Peter,
<br>
I think there is a misunderstanding and I do not
go further reading about 524.1-B.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
To avoid polemics and to save energy, I am accepting your change as shown
in the snapshot.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><img src=cid:_1_0A5627840A5623C40079A164C1258598 width=989 height=105 style="border:0px solid;"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Since this change mentions a CCSDS blue book, it is "good practice"
IMO to add the reference to the book.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
In a blue book this reference would be added in the informative annex,
in a green this option is not available.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
So simple, editorial completion. No hidden purpose, <br>
<br>
Ciao</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Gian Paolo</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Tom
Gannett" <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">01-07-20
19:18</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span></p>
<div align=center>
<hr noshade></div>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:3600px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Hi Gippo,</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Thanks for
taking the time to review the revisions to the spec. I appreciate
your diligence in this regard.</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I do, however,
have an issue with your request in regards this PID. I completely
understand your desire to add a reference to the EPP, in addition to the
existing reference to the SPP. This would appear to be a simple,
parallel, sort of change and in many other circumstances would be easy
to agree to. But in this case I do not think this is technically
viable.</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
I draw your attention to the requirement, within the MO MAL, for there
to be a documented "technology binding". There is no existing,
documented, technology binding for the EPP, only for the SPP. If
you will look in the CCSDS 524x1b1, the "</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">
MISSION OPERATIONS—MAL SPACE PACKET TRANSPORT BINDING AND BINARY ENCODING"
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">you will only find a reference to
the SPP, CCSDS 133x0b1. There is no mention of EPP. Furthermore,
that MAL SPP binding includes a very complicated diagram showing how the
fields of the MAL abstract message are to be mapped to the SPP fields,
including primary header and extended secondary header. I attach
that diagram here. <br>
Since this relies on mapping the MO MAL fields to the APID and also to
a specific secondary header, neither of which the EPP has, and there is
no documented binding for EPP, I do not see how we can accept this. This
is not to say that an EPP binding could not be developed, just that there
is not now one and creation of one seems unlikely. <br>
I hope you concur. <br>
Thanks, Peter <br>
</span></p>
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</b>Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 9:39 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: Final edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span></p>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Peter,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The disposition to my PID satisfies the condition
if the </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">Encapsulation
Packet Protocol</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
is also added among reference documents in section 1.6 (where SPP is already
mentioned with superseded version 1).</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Regards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Gian Paolo</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
<br>
</span><img src=cid:_1_0A56663C0A565F280079A164C1258598 style="border:0px solid;"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
<br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"SEA-SA"
<sea-sa@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Gian
Paolo Calzolari" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, "Erik
Barkley" <barkleye@pacbell.net>, "Dan Smith" <danford.s.smith@nasa.gov>,
"Berry, David S (US 3920)" <david.s.berry@jpl.nasa.gov>,
"'Prochazka, Marek (JSC-OA111)[EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY]'" <marek.prochazka@esa.int>,
"'Hickey, Joseph P. (GSFC-582.0)[VANTAGE SYSTEMS INC]'" <joseph.p.hickey@nasa.gov>,
"Wilmot, Jonathan J. (GSFC-5820)" <jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov>,
"Mario Merri" <Mario.Merri@esa.int>, "'Xionwen He'"
<hexw501@hotmail.com>, "Poole, Eric L. (GSFC-5990)" <eric.l.poole@nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">23-06-20
23:25</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Final
edits of ASL ADD GB ready for review</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span>
<div align=center>
<hr noshade></div>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">Dear SEA SAWG and other ASL reviewers,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">The three editors of the ASL ADD GB (Krosley,
Thompson, Shames) have completed our work of updating the document to resolve
issues raised in the CESG review and also issues raised by other reviewers.
All of these files are now out in the SEA SA CWE area. The
final document, in Word and PDF form, is to be found here:</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2FApp%20%2D%20Support%20Layer%20Green%20Book%2FASL%20ADD%20Final%20Doc%20%2D%20files&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D&"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2FApp%20%2D%20Support%20Layer%20Green%20Book%2FASL%20ADD%20Final%20Doc%20%2D%20files&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D&</u></span></a>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">The separate files of revised figures
for the SO materials are in that folder as well. The files of revised
figures for the MO materials are in a separate location:</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2FApp%20%2D%20Support%20Layer%20Green%20Book%2FMOIMS%20Model%20and%20Graphics%2023%2D06%2D2020&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D&"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/docs/Forms/AllItems.aspx?RootFolder=%2Fsea%2Fdocs%2FSEA%2DSA%2FDraft%20Documents%2FApp%20%2D%20Support%20Layer%20Green%20Book%2FMOIMS%20Model%20and%20Graphics%2023%2D06%2D2020&View=%7BA709F322%2D0E67%2D45C7%2D932D%2DCB78C55CE268%7D&</u></span></a>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
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version of the Word doc that has track changes on (371x0g0_PID dispositions
22June20 track final) is to be found in the following folder along with
other work products including the tracking spreadsheet where we recorded
the SAWG resolutions and the final status:</span></p>
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Ï)/╙4Xi\─V
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;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">The
final copy of that tracking spreadsheet is attached here so that you can
easily determine the status of your PIDs and/or RIDs. All of the
raw and transcribed RID & PID files, in various states of completion
, are also in that folder.</span></p>
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Ï)/╙4Xi\─V
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;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">All
of the changes to this document, as you will see from the raw, track changes,
version of the Word doc are extensive in scope. There is hardly a
page that did not get touched. That said, these changes, for all
their breadth, are not "deep". They are largely editorial
and for clarity rather than to effect any substantive change in meaning
or scope. However, because of their extent we do not think it appropriate
to just ask to send this directly to publication. Accordingly, we
are asking that the SEA SAWG, and the reviewers who submitted PIDs or RIDs,
review this final document and either concur with the changes, as made,
or request further clarifications/adjustments.</span></p>
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Ä;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
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Ä;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b><i>We
ask that you provide a response no later than two weeks from today, close
of business, West Coast time, 7 July 2020.</i></b> If you do have
issues or concerns please record them in the "Reclama" column,
col J, of the attached tracking spreadsheet. </span></p>
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