<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Peter,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">   
    IMO, if SANA would be a technical element it would
not need a SSG.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Moreover, if SSG
belongs to CMC, resolution for publishing SANA Books edited by SGG should
come from CMC and not from SEA (even if the SSG Chair is the SEA AD).</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Regards</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Gian Paolo</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, "CCSDS CESG --" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">13-02-20
19:36</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[CESG] [EXTERNAL] Why not showing SANA Steering Group on CCSDS Web Pages?</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi
Gippo,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks
for the feedback.  I pulled out those references to get clear just
what the stated relationships are.  And I agree that they are a little
complex.    Let's try and boil it down.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">1.
       </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The
SANA is a creature (let's leave it at that for now) of the CMC, and yet
it really is a technical element of CCSDS, not a management element.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">2.
       </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The
SANA gets it's technical guidance from the SSG, so the SSG is somehow "above"
the SANA.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">3.
       </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The
SSG is a technical element, but it reports directly to the CMC.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">4.
       </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The
SSG recommendations get reviewed and concurred by the CESG, and approved
by the CMC, just like all other standards.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The
SEA AD is the identified chair in large part because "</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">The
Systems Engineering Area (SEA) covers system-wide engineering aspects that
are so pervasive that they span both the Informatics and Telematics Domains.
</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">" (from a02x1y4c2)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">and</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
"</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">The System
Engineering Area (SEA) supports the work of the CCSDS by providing : -
Coordination and collaboration with the other areas about architectural
choices and options" (from SEA Charter on-line at </span><a href=https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/default.aspx><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/default.aspx</span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">).</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">As
a result of this cross-cutting and dual responsibility I do not think that
the SSG or the SANA belong down in the SEA part of the technical org chart.
 I think that they have to be appended to the CMC.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">And,
given that the SANA has both a "management role", in that it
manages data for the whole CCSDS as assigned by the CMC, and a "technical
role", in that it provides a technical service and not a management
service, it probably belongs on both diagrams.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">If
we were to put the SSG down in the SEA part of the technical org chart
we would have to show a management line from the SSG up to the "top"
of the SANA, and that would be awkward.  I think the draft charts
I provided are roughly correct as they are.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Gian Paolo
Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 7:46 AM<b><br>
To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] Why not showing SANA Steering Group
on CCSDS Web Pages?</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Peter,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
        thank you fro drawing my attention on the additional
drawing. So we have two drawing that can/may be affected: <br>
1) CCSDS Technical Organization @ </span><a href=https://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
2) CCSDS Management Structure @ </span><a href=https://public.ccsds.org/about/ManagementStructure.aspx><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://public.ccsds.org/about/ManagementStructure.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Only the latter shows SANA on the same side of the Secretariat.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I think this is correct as SANA and Secretariat are not part of the Technical
organization to which they provide services (and indeed "The  SANA
 provides  this  key  configuration  management
 service  for  CCSDS.").</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
However, as you correctly remind us, </span><a href=https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/313x0y2.pdf><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/313x0y2.pdf</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
states that the SSG has "to provide to the SANA operator technical
and programmatic guidance related to ongoing operational and policy matters."</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
In such a sense I think that while SANA does not belong to the Technical
Organization, SSG does belong to the Technical Organization.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
It is also true that SSG is appointed by the CMC and that Membership of
the SANA Steering Group is determined and approved by the CMC but being
the chair by default the SEA AD, I would rather put it under the SEA Umbrella
(i.e. showing it in the SEA column of the  CCSDS Technical Organization
 @ </span><a href=https://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
) even if I can agree that it has a special status starting from the fact
that people cannot just volunteer to be SSG members (as done for normal
WG) but the membership shall be blessed by CMC.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Moreover, also keeping in mind that SSG has a tight link to CMC, it is
also true that the input given is checked first by CESG that is called
to check the technical contents of the documents including the Annex with
SANA Considerations.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I think that an extra box in the SEA Column for the  CCSDS Technical
Organization diagram would also help in creating the awareness you call
for.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Further details can be easily written in the extra tab that would be added
@ </span><a href=https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/default.aspx><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/sea/default.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
My cent (after your valuable input).</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Of course, no problem in discussing this at the next CESG telecon.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Gippo</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, "CCSDS CESG --" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">12-02-20
18:26</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[EXTERNAL] [CESG] Why not showing SANA Steering Group on CCSDS Web Pages?</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span></p>
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<hr noshade></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Hi
Gippo,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">You
are correct that the SANA is shown on our web pages, but the SSG is not.
 I think the reason for that is that we wanted to give the SANA and
the registries prominence for the users of the site.  The SSG is a
steering group, much like the CESG is a steering group.  The CESG
is visible on the two org / structure charts that we have, but the focus
in both is on the WG structure which is where the bulk of the work is done,
as we all know.  The role of the CESG, and of the SSG, is technical
oversight.  We are intended to make sure that the right sausage is
being made and that the sausage is made correctly and without flaws or
contaminants.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">The
SSG and its role is introduced in the current CCSDS A02x1y4c2, in Sec 2.3.1.4.7,
on pg 2-8.  This original text dates back to April 2004 when CCSDS
was re-organized:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><br>
The SSG will provide oversight of SANA operations, validate and confirm
SANA operations, and be the first level of appeal for issues. The SSG can
be reached at ssg@sanaregistry.org. </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">The SSG is
further touched upon in the current SANA Role, Responsibilities document,
CCSDS 313x0y1, in Sec 3.7, on pg 3-3.  This original text dates back
to July 2011:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><br>
A SANA Steering Group (SSG) is appointed by the CMC to provide to the SANA
operator technical and programmatic guidance related to ongoing operational
and policy matters. The SSG is delegated responsibility for oversight of
SANA operations, validation and confirmation of SANA operations, and acting
as the first level of appeal for issues. </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">A more complete
description of the SSG was documented in the Registry Management Policy,
CCSDS 313x1y1, in Sec 4.2.2 SANA Steering Group, on pg 4-1.  This
original text, which references and extends the 313x0y1 text quoted above,
dates from May 2016:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><br>
The membership of the SANA Steering Group is determined and approved by
the CMC. </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf">…</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><br>
The membership of the SANA Steering Group consists of individuals with
the following responsibilities: </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 SEA AD, chair; </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 SANA Operator (ex officio); </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 Secretariat (ex officio); </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 CMC member; </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 MOIMS area member; </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 CSS area member; </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 SOIS area member; </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 SLS area member; </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol"><br>
· </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Symbol">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">–
 SIS area member.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri"><br>
Members should also be chosen to ensure agency balance. </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I think it
is pretty clear that the SSG reports to the CMC, as does the SANA itself.
 We could choose to reflect that role and relationship on the web
site in a couple of different ways graphically.  I have attached draft
"revised" versions of two different CCSDS website pages as suggestions.
 I do not have any strong feelings about how we represent the SSG
nor even whether we do it.  What is most important from my point of
view is that the CCSDS Areas, and their WG Chairs, become aware of what
we are creating as a set of inter-related registries and their roles in
keeping this as useful and coherent as possible.  If updating the
CCSDS website pages serves that end I am all for it.</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">On a related
note, I will point out that during the typical SSG meetings we have had
SANA Operator, Secretariat, CMC, SEA, and SLS participation.  We occasionally
have had CSS present. The agencies typically represented include: NASA,
CNES, and DLR.   I do not think that the other areas typically participate
at all.  That is their choice, of course, but it means that they are
choosing not to exercise a role that they have been given in steering the
SANA.</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">I suggest that
discussing this should be a topic for the next CESG telecon.</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Best regards,
Peter</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>CESG
<cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Gian Paolo Calzolari
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:35 AM<b><br>
To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [CESG] Why not showing SANA Steering Group on CCSDS
Web Pages?</span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style=";margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
All,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
       I just noticed that the SANA Steering Group (SSG)
is not present on our CCSDS Web Pages.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
It is not present in the diagram showing the CCSDS Technical Organization
(see </span><a href=https://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
SANA is mentioned on the Home Page </span><a href=https://public.ccsds.org/default.aspx><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://public.ccsds.org/default.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">
but this is not SSG.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Considering also the increasing importance of SANA in our activities, I
wonder whether SSG should be present somewhere on our CCSDS web pages.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
My cent.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Gian Paolo</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
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