<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Peter,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">as per my previous
e-mail, I prefer to first have one round of technical discussion with  the
ECSS expert. That session shall be seen as a "workshop" , whose
aim is to establish synergies (if any), areas of possible cooperation (if
any), and roadmap (if any).</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Only at that point,
and depending on the outcome of the discussion, the matter will/can be
presented to the CESG.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I understood from
 Andrew that it will not be problem for him to attend also other CCSDS
sessions. So, a CESG discussion about the Glossary may be scheduled by
the Spring 2020 Meeting.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">In general, I
would like to stress that any (technical) topic that gets brought to the
attention of the CESG must be preliminary assessed by a technical body.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">The CESG discussion
shall be based  on the outcome of the technical discussion.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span>
<br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b>Margherita
di Giulio</b></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana">Ground
Station Systems Division</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana">Backend
Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span>
<br>
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<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b>European
Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
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<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Townes,
Stephen A (US 9000)" <stephen.a.townes@jpl.nasa.gov>, "CCSDS
Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">27/09/2019
19:10</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear
Margherita,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">We
could, as you suggest, have a discussion in the SSG about these two Glossary
efforts and whether there are sufficient similarities or differences to
make looking at some sort of collaboration viable.  But I think you
are aware that the SSG is really just about steering the SANA Operator's
work and how the SANA handles its relationships with the CCSDS WG.  </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">This
discussion seems to me to be more appropriate in the context of the CESG
because arriving at any sort of collaboration on Glossary entries would
mean that the CCSDS WG and the ECSS WG, or whatever technical apparatus
that they have, would need to work together.  The same is true, by
the way, with the TC 20/SC 14 relationship that we have been working on
for a while in the CESG context, and with CMC visibility.  </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I
think it would be more appropriate to have this discussion within the CESG
before we start to try and work out the mechanics.  As a result I
have copied the CESG, and the CMC chair, to get their feedback.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Best
regards, Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:02 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>"Andrew.Herd@esa.int" <Andrew.Herd@esa.int><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
Peter,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I have had a chat with Andrew Herd (in copy) and he clarified the kind
of cooperation he would like to establish with CCSDS's, re, the  Glossary
<br>
ECSS has developed a Glossary with an approach similar to the CCSDS's one
in  the SANA Registry. <br>
There are also technology developments that may be interesting for CCSDS..</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
We have agreed that he will attend the SSG meeting at the Thursday session,
if ok with you, and give a short introduction of the work done by ECSS
in this context.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Andrew also mentioned the ISO TC20/SC14 interest  into synergies in
Glossary-related activities, which we are also aware of.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I think at the SSG meeting we can look into areas of cooperation with ECSS
and possibly establish a roadmap for future work.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
By the way, I will also (try and) attend the SSG Meeting.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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Margherita di Giulio</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Ground Station Systems Division</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Backend Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
European Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span></p>
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