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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Margherita,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok. We'll assess this outside of the CESG first.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As I stated earlier, the SSG is not the right venue for this discussion. Instead we will allocate a part of the Thursday morning SEA – SAWG session to the discussion of this ECSS proposal and the SC14 glossary work.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Thursday</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">:<br>
10/24/2019 - 08:45 - 12:30: 1.01 - SEA - Systems Architecture Working Group</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, October 7, 2019 at 4:50 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org>, Steve Townes <stephen.a.townes@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Peter,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">as per my previous e-mail, I prefer to first have one round of technical discussion with the ECSS expert. That session shall be seen as a "workshop" , whose aim is to establish synergies (if any),
areas of possible cooperation (if any), and roadmap (if any).</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Only at that point, and depending on the outcome of the discussion, the matter will/can be presented to the CESG.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I understood from Andrew that it will not be problem for him to attend also other CCSDS sessions. So, a CESG discussion about the Glossary may be scheduled by the Spring 2020 Meeting.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In general, I would like to stress that any (technical) topic that gets brought to the attention of the CESG must be preliminary assessed by a technical body.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The CESG discussion shall be based on the outcome of the technical discussion.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span> <br>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#00A1E0">Margherita di Giulio</span></b>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Townes, Stephen A (US 9000)" <stephen.a.townes@jpl.nasa.gov>, "CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG
Exec" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span> <br>
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">27/09/2019 19:10</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span>
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Dear Margherita,<o:p></o:p></p>
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We could, as you suggest, have a discussion in the SSG about these two Glossary efforts and whether there are sufficient similarities or differences to make looking at some sort of collaboration viable. But I think you are aware that the SSG is really just
about steering the SANA Operator's work and how the SANA handles its relationships with the CCSDS WG. <o:p></o:p></p>
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This discussion seems to me to be more appropriate in the context of the CESG because arriving at any sort of collaboration on Glossary entries would mean that the CCSDS WG and the ECSS WG, or whatever technical apparatus that they have, would need to work
together. The same is true, by the way, with the TC 20/SC 14 relationship that we have been working on for a while in the CESG context, and with CMC visibility. <o:p></o:p></p>
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I think it would be more appropriate to have this discussion within the CESG before we start to try and work out the mechanics. As a result I have copied the CESG, and the CMC chair, to get their feedback.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Best regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:02 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>"Andrew.Herd@esa.int" <Andrew.Herd@esa.int><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Peter,</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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I have had a chat with Andrew Herd (in copy) and he clarified the kind of cooperation he would like to establish with CCSDS's, re, the Glossary
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ECSS has developed a Glossary with an approach similar to the CCSDS's one in the SANA Registry.
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There are also technology developments that may be interesting for CCSDS..</span>
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We have agreed that he will attend the SSG meeting at the Thursday session, if ok with you, and give a short introduction of the work done by ECSS in this context.</span>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
Andrew also mentioned the ISO TC20/SC14 interest into synergies in Glossary-related activities, which we are also aware of.</span>
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I think at the SSG meeting we can look into areas of cooperation with ECSS and possibly establish a roadmap for future work.</span>
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By the way, I will also (try and) attend the SSG Meeting.</span> <br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span> <br>
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