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<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Many thanks,</span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#800080;font-family:sans-serif" class="">----- Forwarded by Andrew Herd/estec/ESA on 19/09/2019 15:00 -----</span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif" class="">From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Andrew Herd/estec/ESA</span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif" class="">To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">"Shames, Peter M (312B)" <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov" class="">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>></span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Cc: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org" class="">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:Laurent.Marchand@esa.int" class="">Laurent.Marchand@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Laurent.Marchand@esa.int" class="">Laurent.Marchand@esa.int</a>>, "<a href="mailto:Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int" class="">Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int" class="">Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int</a>>,
CCSDS Secretariat <<a href="mailto:secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org" class="">secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>, Mikko Nikulainen/estec/ESA@ESA</span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">05/09/2019 09:23</span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Re: [EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Dear Peter,</span> <br class="">
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<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">I have received an invite to register and I am assuming that the following part of the proceedings relates to your proposed fora and timing for the ECSS e-Glossary presentation and demonstration.</span>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">For ISO we provided a high level presentation at the plenary, and then more detailed discussion held within the WG - maybe it would also be appropriate to follow this type of approach?</span>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Please then let me know how you would like to proceed.</span>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Many thanks,</span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif" class="">From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">"Shames, Peter M (312B)" <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov" class="">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>></span>
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"<a href="mailto:Roger.Jegou@esa.int" class="">Roger.Jegou@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Roger.Jegou@esa.int" class="">Roger.Jegou@esa.int</a>>, "<a href="mailto:Laurent.Marchand@esa.int" class="">Laurent.Marchand@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Laurent.Marchand@esa.int" class="">Laurent.Marchand@esa.int</a>>,
CCSDS Secretariat <<a href="mailto:secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org" class="">secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org" class="">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif" class="">Re: [EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Hi Andrew,</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">I understood that what you were asking about was an ESA /ECSS workshop on Glossaries. I thought you meant to address this not in the context
of CCSDS, but in some ESA workshop.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">From this email, however, it appears that you are not only wishing to address the topic of glossaries, but you (ECSS) propose to come and tell
CCSDS how to create, write, produce, and review standards. This is not a topic that is suitable for the SEA Systems Engineering WG. If you wish to address that subject I suggest that you ask to bring it to the CCSDS Engineering Steering Group as a whole.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Please keep in mind that CCSDS has a nearly 40 year history of producing international and widely accepted standards for space communications,
cross support, and interoperability. We also have a well documented process for doing this which works well. Of course it could be improved, and we have made incremental changes in it over the 20 years I have been involved in the organization.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">I have copied the CCSDS Secretariat, who operate the CCSDS document processes, and the CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG), so that they
are aware of this request.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">I will entertain a discussion just on the subject of glossaries in the context of the SEA SAWG meeting. I may also see if I can get some of
the TC20/SC14 people who are also interested in this topic to participate at that time, during the CCSDS working meetings.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Best regards, Peter</span></div>
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</b>"<a href="mailto:Andrew.Herd@esa.int" class="">Andrew.Herd@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Herd@esa.int" class="">Andrew.Herd@esa.int</a>><b class=""><br class="">
Date: </b>Friday, June 21, 2019 at 11:12 AM<b class=""><br class="">
To: </b>Peter Shames <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov" class="">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><b class=""><br class="">
Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int" class="">Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int" class="">Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int</a>>, "<a href="mailto:Roger.Jegou@esa.int" class="">Roger.Jegou@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Roger.Jegou@esa.int" class="">Roger.Jegou@esa.int</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:Laurent.Marchand@esa.int" class="">Laurent.Marchand@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Laurent.Marchand@esa.int" class="">Laurent.Marchand@esa.int</a>><b class=""><br class="">
Subject: </b>Re: [EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span></div>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt" class="">Dear Peter,<br class="">
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Great response ... you cover all the central issues associated with glossary.<br class="">
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However to confirm, we are currently only proposing a ECSS / CCSDS glossaries focussed bilateral during the CCSDS fall meeting in Germany. This could be a dedicated meeting, or simply a 30 minute presentation during your WG activities.
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At this we will present (relative to glossary)<br class="">
A cleaner improved set of drafting rules<br class="">
A new way of writing standards<br class="">
A new process of reviewing standards<br class="">
An improved way of searching ECSS<br class="">
A more user friendly approach for users to understand terms and documents<br class="">
New technology based capabilities <br class="">
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In all of these aspects we can consider how these capabilities are a way of;<br class="">
Improving standardization ways of working<br class="">
Improving point of use support in generation of standardization documents <br class="">
Allowing users to compare (and select) varying definitions for terms<br class="">
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Our presentation aims to raise awareness of the new ECSS capabilities and to ask which areas (if any) CCSDS sees the need for closer collaboration
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When we recently presented to ISO SC14, the hosts British Standarda Institute (BSI) were very interested from a "product development " perspective (so not so much a content perspective).
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I believe we have a relevant and interesting message and would very much hope that this offer is of interest (and is clearly on a non committal basis).<br class="">
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Looking forward to hearing from you,<br class="">
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Andrew<br class="">
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Thank you for reaching out with this information. You are correct that I am the Systems Engineering Area (SEA) Area Director, and in that
role that I also have cognizance over the CCSDS SANA website and the Glossary that we maintain. That Glossary is updated with terms that have been specified in the various CCSDS Blue Book and Magenta Book normative standards that we publish. In some cases
there are even definitions that were published in an informative Green Book, especially if these provide a useful definition that is not otherwise published elsewhere. As the ECSS Glossary Convenor I suspect that you also have a good understanding of the
sorts of challenges that can be encountered in trying to keep these Glossaries up to date, and more importantly (at least in my mind) keeping them harmonized.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">I'll be frank in pointing out that for some time now we have been trying to steer CCSDS toward doing this rather challenging "harmonization"
task. I had one of my JPL guys look at this a while back and we discovered a number of inconsistencies which were pointed out to the CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG), which is made up of me and the other CCSDS ADs, and the CESG chair and deputy. There
is an awareness now and several of the areas are doing the work to start to sort out inconsistencies and overlaps. After a quick scan of your Glossary using a simple "packet" query,
</span><a href="https://ecss.nl/home/glossary/?qry=packet" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class="">https://ecss.nl/home/glossary/?qry=packet</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">,
it appears that you have some of the same issues we do, and likely from the same sources.</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Issues aside, I am not sure just what it is that you are suggesting. You have your registry of terms from ECSS documents, some of which are
clearly drawn from CCSDS documents. We have our CCSDS Glossary. And, as you appear to be aware, the TC20/SC14 is also interested in a Glossary and would like, I believe, to leverage what already exists in CCSDS, TC20/SC13. I do not know that the IOAG (not
IAQG) has a Glossary of their own, but they might. I have not looked into that.
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">I am supportive of their being a glossary of terms related to space and space exploration. I am also supportive of their being a suitably
comprehensive, but also flexible, reference architecture so that these terms all can be understood relative to a common technical framework that is grounded in an architecture. Along these lines, have you looked at the CCSDS Reference Architecture for Space
Data Systems (RASDS), CCSDS 311.0-M-1? This is the architectural framework we developed years ago. And there is a companion pair of documents, the Space Communications Cross Support Architecture, an ADD (Green Book) and an ARD Requirements document (Magenta
Book). These are CCSDS 901.0-G-1 and CCSDS 901.1-M-1. Bother are to be found on the CCSDS website at
</span><a href="https://public.ccsds.org/Publications/default.aspx" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class="">https://public.ccsds.org/Publications/default.aspx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">.
These use the RASDS framework to describe how some 90 of the CCSDS standards may be deployed to create interoperable communications architectures. Does ECSS have any such reference architecture that your standards relate to?</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Are you proposing that CCSDS and these other organizations participate in this ECSS (ESA) workshop in late October? Is this to be a working
meeting or mostly presentations? Did you want us to present our Glossary and analyses to you, or were you proposing to only present to us? </span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Thanks, Peter</span></div>
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Peter Shames<br class="">
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We must recognize the strong and undeniable influence that our language exerts on our ways of thinking and, in fact, delimits the abstract space in which we can formulate - give form to - our thoughts.<br class="">
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</b>"</span><a href="mailto:Andrew.Herd%40esa.int" class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class="">Andrew.Herd@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">" <</span><a href="mailto:Andrew.Herd%40esa.int" class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class="">Andrew.Herd@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">><b class=""><br class="">
Date: </b>Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 5:06 AM<b class=""><br class="">
To: </b>Peter Shames <</span><a href="mailto:peter.m.shames%40jpl.nasa.gov" class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class="">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">><b class=""><br class="">
Cc: </b>"</span><a href="mailto:Nicolas.Bobrinsky%40esa.int" class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class="">Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">" <</span><a href="mailto:Nicolas.Bobrinsky%40esa.int" class=""><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class="">Nicolas.Bobrinsky@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">>,
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Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] ECSS work on e-Glossary - possible CCSDS synergies</span></div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" class="">Dear Peter,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">
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As the ECSS Glossary TF Convenor, I have been asked by the ECSS Technical Authority to assess your interest in recent capabilities developed relating to e-Glossary.
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Some of these capabilities are already provided on the current public website - </span>
<a href="http://ecss.nl/" class=""><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial" class=""><u class="">ecss.nl</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" class="">, whilst others have yet to be released as a mobile app and as
a plug-in to Microsoft Word (release expected by July 2019).</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">
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We understand that as you are the Area Director - SYSTEMS ENGINEERING AREA (SEA), you oversee the CCSDS Glossary (and e-based Glossary).</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">
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There is a conference / workshop planned for late October, in Oberfaffenhoffen, and we were asking to present to you and your colleagues these capabilities to assess the opportunity for collaboration.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">
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We recently presented to IAQG and ISO SC14, and received positive feedback.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">
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Many thanks for your consideration,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">
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