<span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">Dear Margherita,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">considering the conclusions
of that part of the meeting as reported in the final version of the MoM,
i.e. (extracted verbatim from the MoM):</span>
<ul>
<li><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial">The stated
purpose of the Yellow Book will now be to document this interaction between
SOIS and MOIMS on-board, and not only to document the comparative features
of the MAL and EDS. PS to assess the comments to the Yellow Book provided
by the MOIMS Area, and to update the Yellow Book, in the light of the 3
Cases and the current understanding about SOIS and S/C real-time environments.</span>
<li><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial">The book
shall then be re-assessed by CESG.</span>
<li><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial">Organize/schedule
a telecom focused on sorting out outstanding issues (if any) and come up
with an agreed upon concept that will be documented in the final Yellow
Book.</span>
<li><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial">Develop
one example of mapping/interfacing of one MO service to one board service.
JW to propose one on board SOIS service ( e.g one instrument on a subnet,
described by EDS’s) , MOIMS and SOIS to develop the relevant mapping example.</span></ul>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">I consider an unnecessary
duplication of effort to produce the annex to the MoM. The above actions
will provide more educated answers to the questions on the table than trying
to document the unstructured discussion that took place during the CESG
meeting.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">Regards,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">__Mario</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, "'CCSDS
CESG --'" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">03/06/2019
12:19</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[CESG] [EXTERNAL] CESG Minutes of Meeting - Final version</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Sent
by: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"CESG"
<cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Peter and
All,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
I have taken some time before replying, because the matter is complex.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><b><br>
One one hand</b>, I stick to my statement that <i>"</i></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><i>The
scope of the Minutes of Meeting is to record the conclusion of the
discussion and the way forward ( decisions and actions). "</i></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
This holds for *any* Minute of Meeting, because the MoMs are not
supposed to be a technical report about the topics addressed during the
meeting</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
The MoM is an administrative and management document</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><b><br>
On the other hand</b>, I understand the desire to record all
the steps of the technical discussion and the key concepts, for future
use.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Peter's input is valuable, but it it reflects the content of his notes
taken at the meeting - I am not arguing if these are right or wrong, <br>
There were other opinions and contributions, from (almost all of
the ) CESG members.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><b><br>
Conclusion</b>: the three involved parties ( Peter, Mario, Jonathan) shall
write a "Complement" or Annex to the MoM, containing the steps
of the discussion that contributed to the clarification of the concepts,
and that brought to the conclusions.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
The effort for doing such Annex is not major, and in any case it will constitute
the basis for future technical work - so, it will be directly re-usable.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
The material already available from Peter's notes shared via previous e-mail(s)
is a starting point. But this shall be either commented or concurred by
Mario and Jonathan and, actually, by anybody who wish to contribute.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
I request to stick to what was truly said during the meeting, rather then
diverging with any sort of arguments.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
That Annex, once agreed by all authors and finalised, will be uploaded
to the CWE in the same Directory where all the meeting material is.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
If that approach is fine with the a.m. involved people I
will add to the MoM a "post-meeting Action" to produce the Annex.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
--------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Margherita di Giulio</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Ground Station Systems Division</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Backend Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
European Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int>, "'CCSDS CESG --'" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">24/05/2019
20:58</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[EXTERNAL] [CESG] CESG Minutes of Meeting - Final version</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<br>
</span>
<hr noshade><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
</span>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear
Margherita,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I
believe that you did a quite good job of dealing with somewhat contentious
subject matter. And I understand completely your approach. To
that end, and being mindful of what you stated below: </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial">"Otherwise,
for the sake of fairness, all opinions and contributions by the participants
to the discussion should be recorded</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">
"</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I
believe that there were significant statements made by both me and Mario
that got left out of the discussion. As a consequence, I am asking
that the MoM be amended to include these significant statements, as shown
in the attached. As an example, it is clearly the case that I spent
some significant time and effort to present the history, using images from
the original SOIS / MOIMS MOU, and images from other more recent materials,
to demonstrate that the whole concept of hard real-time systems and software,
in the spacecraft on-board environment, had never even been acknowledged
before. This is key to understanding the limitations and constraints
on any software intended to operate on-board, and it figured in Mario's
statement that "MOIMS never intended to develop such real-time software."</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">In
fairness, I would like the minutes to reflect these actual "opinions
and contributions … to the discussion".</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of "Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Friday, May 24, 2019 at 9:25 AM<b><br>
To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [CESG] CESG Minutes of Meeting - Final version</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
All,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
please find attached the final version of the CESG Minutes of Meeting.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I have included only comments that help the understanding of the
text.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Concerning the discussion about MO services and SOIS-defined on board services,
I would like to recall that it is not in the scope of the Minutes of Meeting
to record each and every sentence which contributed to the brainstorming
.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The scope of the Minutes of Meeting is to record the conclusion of
the discussion and the way forward ( decisions and actions). <br>
Otherwise, for the sake of fairness, all opinions and contributions
by the participants to the discussion should be recorded.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
The technical discussion shall be resumed in the upcoming course of actions
, and the (detailed) outcome shall become part of the <u>technical</u>
documentation.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
The MoM is also available at:: </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u><br>
</u></span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/cesg/docs/CWE%20Private/Meetings/2019%20Spring%20Meeting%20Mountain%20View/CESG%20Meeting%2C%2010%20May%202019/d1.0-CESG-Spring19%20Minutes%20of%20Meeting_FINAL.pdf"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/cesg/docs/CWE%20Private/Meetings/2019%20Spring%20Meeting%20Mountain%20View/CESG%20Meeting%2C%2010%20May%202019/d1.0-CESG-Spring19%20Minutes%20of%20Meeting_FINAL.pdf</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
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Margherita di Giulio</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Ground Station Systems Division</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Backend Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
<br>
European Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span></p>
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