<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Peter and All,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I have taken some
time before replying, because the matter is complex.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><b>One one hand</b>,
I stick to my statement that <i>"</i></span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><i>The
scope of the Minutes of Meeting is to record the conclusion of the
discussion and the way forward ( decisions and actions). "</i></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">This holds for
*any* Minute of Meeting, because the MoMs are not supposed to be
a technical report about the topics addressed during the meeting</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">The MoM is an
administrative and management document</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><b>On the other
hand</b>, I understand the desire to record all the steps of
the technical discussion and the key concepts, for future use.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Peter's input
is valuable, but it it reflects the content of his notes taken at the meeting
- I am not arguing if these are right or wrong, </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">There were other
opinions and contributions, from (almost all of the ) CESG members.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><b>Conclusion</b>:
the three involved parties ( Peter, Mario, Jonathan) shall write a "Complement"
or Annex to the MoM, containing the steps of the discussion that contributed
to the clarification of the concepts, and that brought to the conclusions.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">The effort for
doing such Annex is not major, and in any case it will constitute the basis
for future technical work - so, it will be directly re-usable.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">The material already
available from Peter's notes shared via previous e-mail(s) is a starting
point. But this shall be either commented or concurred by Mario and Jonathan
and, actually, by anybody who wish to contribute.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I request to stick
to what was truly said during the meeting, rather then diverging with any
sort of arguments.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">That Annex, once
agreed by all authors and finalised, will be uploaded to the CWE
in the same Directory where all the meeting material is.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">If that approach
is fine with the a.m. involved people I will add to the MoM
a "post-meeting Action" to produce the Annex.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">--------------------------------------------------------------<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b>Margherita
di Giulio</b></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana">Ground
Station Systems Division</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana">Backend
Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b>European
Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
<br>
</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int>, "'CCSDS CESG --'" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">24/05/2019
20:58</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[EXTERNAL] [CESG] CESG Minutes of Meeting - Final version</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear
Margherita,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I
believe that you did a quite good job of dealing with somewhat contentious
subject matter. And I understand completely your approach. To
that end, and being mindful of what you stated below: </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Arial">"Otherwise,
for the sake of fairness, all opinions and contributions by the participants
to the discussion should be recorded</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Calibri">
"</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I
believe that there were significant statements made by both me and Mario
that got left out of the discussion. As a consequence, I am asking
that the MoM be amended to include these significant statements, as shown
in the attached. As an example, it is clearly the case that I spent
some significant time and effort to present the history, using images from
the original SOIS / MOIMS MOU, and images from other more recent materials,
to demonstrate that the whole concept of hard real-time systems and software,
in the spacecraft on-board environment, had never even been acknowledged
before. This is key to understanding the limitations and constraints
on any software intended to operate on-board, and it figured in Mario's
statement that "MOIMS never intended to develop such real-time software."</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">In
fairness, I would like the minutes to reflect these actual "opinions
and contributions … to the discussion".</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of "Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Friday, May 24, 2019 at 9:25 AM<b><br>
To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [CESG] CESG Minutes of Meeting - Final version</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
All,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
please find attached the final version of the CESG Minutes of Meeting.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
I have included only comments that help the understanding of the
text.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Concerning the discussion about MO services and SOIS-defined on board services,
I would like to recall that it is not in the scope of the Minutes of Meeting
to record each and every sentence which contributed to the brainstorming
.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The scope of the Minutes of Meeting is to record the conclusion of
the discussion and the way forward ( decisions and actions). <br>
Otherwise, for the sake of fairness, all opinions and contributions
by the participants to the discussion should be recorded.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The technical discussion shall be resumed in the upcoming course of actions
, and the (detailed) outcome shall become part of the <u>technical</u>
documentation.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The MoM is also available at:: </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u><br>
</u></span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/cesg/docs/CWE%20Private/Meetings/2019%20Spring%20Meeting%20Mountain%20View/CESG%20Meeting%2C%2010%20May%202019/d1.0-CESG-Spring19%20Minutes%20of%20Meeting_FINAL.pdf"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/cesg/docs/CWE%20Private/Meetings/2019%20Spring%20Meeting%20Mountain%20View/CESG%20Meeting%2C%2010%20May%202019/d1.0-CESG-Spring19%20Minutes%20of%20Meeting_FINAL.pdf</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
--------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
Margherita di Giulio</b></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Ground Station Systems Division</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Backend Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
European Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span></p>
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