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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I just reviewed again the proposed set of edits to the original MoM that Margherita sent out.  There are short sections of text that I inserted:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Text quoted from the Registry Management Policy (CCSDS 313.1-Y-1) relative to the defined processes form managing the
 CCSDS Glossary<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Text quoted from CCSDS 320.0-M-7, dated Nov 2017 that documented statements made during the CESG meeting re long-standing
 requirements to relinquish SCIDs and to not use them for archival purposes<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">With the exception of these two insertions, which we added for clarity, everything else in the edits I provided we are discussed during the meeting.  To leave these out is
 to leave the report inaccurate as to what was said and what it meant.  It is the case that we did engage in a certain level of technical discussion and argument, and the minutes of the meeting should reflect that, even if we did not reach a solid conclusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I am attaching the edits with those two sections, and an inaccurate statement caught by Gippo, removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="color:black">CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Gilles Moury <Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, May 17, 2019 at 6:47 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Colin Haddow <Colin.Haddow@esa.int>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org>, CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>, "Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft MoM of CESG Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:37.65pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I support Colin’s proposal to stay with the initial MoM text especially for the discussion regarding :
</span><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">CCSDS 870.10-Y-1, MO Services and on SOIS Electronic Data Sheets – Deployment scenarios</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">for which comments/edits submitted are conflicting and are more relevant as technical arguments to be discussed in the above mentioned
 yellow book. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Gilles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Gilles MOURY</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">CNES Toulouse</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>
<b>De la part de</b> Colin.Haddow@esa.int<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 17 mai 2019 10:52<br>
<b>À :</b> cesg@mailman.ccsds.org; CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>; Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft MoM of CESG Meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear all,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">                 I have some severe concerns about some of the revisions that are being made to the draft Minutes that Margherita issued on Wednesday. Various changes are being introduced that do
 not, to my recollection, reflect what was actually <b><i>discussed</i></b> during the meeting. MoM are not meant to contain detailed technical arguments (and certainly not add additional content not discussed at the meeting) , but reflect the significant points
 of discussion and capture the decisions made and actions allocated.</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">With this in mind I would propose, unless anyone identifies significant inaccuracies or omissions, that Margherita issues the original draft as the formal MoM.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Cheers for now,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Colin<br>
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Dr. Colin R. Haddow,<br>
HSO-GI, European Space Agency,<br>
European Space Operations Centre,<br>
Robert-Bosch-Str 5,<br>
64293 Darmstadt,<br>
Germany.<br>
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Phone; +49 6151 90 2896<br>
Fax;      +49 6151 90 3010<br>
E-Mail;  <a href="mailto:colin.haddow@esa.int">colin.haddow@esa.int</a><br>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M \(312B\) via CESG" <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:Mario.Merri@esa.int">Mario.Merri@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Mario.Merri@esa.int">Mario.Merri@esa.int</a>>,
 "<a href="mailto:Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">17/05/2019 01:00</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re:  Draft MoM of CESG Meeting</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"CESG" <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please see provided feedback on Mario's comments.  I believe that the PUS, and the MAL, are very different in nature and "footprint".  I do not think that they are "equivalent", but I do believe
 that there is a certain level of parallel features at a functional level in terms of what is exposed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards, Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of Mario Merri <<a href="mailto:Mario.Merri@esa.int">Mario.Merri@esa.int</a>><b><br>
Date: </b>Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 8:28 AM<b><br>
To: </b>"<a href="mailto:Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</a>><b><br>
Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [CESG] Draft MoM of CESG Meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Margherita,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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please find the comments of Brigitte and mine.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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From:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int">Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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Date:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">15/05/2019 18:54</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[CESG] Draft MoM of CESG Meeting</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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please find attached the draft Minute of Meeting of the CESG Meeting held on 10th May.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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