<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Dear Scott,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">thanks for your
inputs.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Concerning your
point 1, we can certainly do some brainstorming on the procedure for starting
a Working Group. On top of the considerations from your e-mail, some time
ago we also addressed the case where a book is due for 5-years-review by
a WG that has been, meanwhile, disbanded. We considered that, re-staring
a (new) WG only for that specific task would be very time-and-resources-intensive.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">About updating
the A02.1-Y-4 ( the Org&Procs book) I have received also a couple
of other proposed changes that shall be brought to the attention of CESG.
These are, however, not conceptual changes, but only improvement of some
text to make it more comprehensive.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">If we will have
sufficient time at the CESG meeting, your ( and other) proposed changes
can be addressed, then the discussion will continue, if needed, via
e-mails or telecon.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Updates to the
Org&Proc YB have so far been done not via formal Agency Review, but
via corrigenda. When a certain set of changes is produced, the changes
can be gathered into a new issues. The changes have to be concurred by
CESG and CMC.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">About point 2,
concerning adoption of external specifications, can you prepare a short
text, or a slide, to introduce the discussion?</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I will update
the Agenda to contain the two discussion topics.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">--------------------------------------------------------------<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#00a1e0;font-family:Verdana"><b>Margherita
di Giulio</b></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana">Ground
Station Systems Division</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana">Backend
Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b>European
Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
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</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Burleigh,
Scott C (312B)" <scott.c.burleigh@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int>, "cesg@mailman.ccsds.org"
<cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Blackwood,
Michael D." <MBlackwood@asrcfederal.com></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">29/04/2019
18:29</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">RE:
[EXTERNAL] [CESG] Draft Agenda for CESG Meeting on 10th May</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Hi,
Margherita. I would like to propose two topics for discussion at
the CESG meeting:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">1.
A general principle articulated in section 2.1 of
A02.1-Y-4 is:</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">WORKING
GROUPS (WGs) that are chartered to produce specific standards on a</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">specific
schedule and within specific resource envelopes, and then go out of business.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">But
that’s not how we work now; working groups generally continue indefinitely
(like the old Panels), adding new Projects as new tasks arise, and in part
this is because the procedure for starting up a new working group is resource-intensive.
Should we simply abandon that organizational principle and revise
the Yellow Book accordingly? If not, is there some way to make the
formation of new working groups faster and easier?</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">2.
In some cases, CCSDS chooses to adopt specifications
developed elsewhere as CCSDS standards. Those specifications are
sometime published standards, but sometimes they are work in progress within
other organizations (e.g., IETF). What is the best way to attribute
this imported work, to (a) ensure that the resulting standards are unambiguous
in their references to elements of the source material and (b) minimize
the chance of lawyers getting involved? For example, should we define
an additional type of Annex whose content is the entire source text that
is being referenced?</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">One
last minor point: the start time for agenda item 5 looks incorrect.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri">Scott</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:#004080;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>
CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2019 8:33 AM<b><br>
To:</b> cesg@mailman.ccsds.org<b><br>
Cc:</b> Blackwood, Michael D. <MBlackwood@asrcfederal.com><b><br>
Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [CESG] Draft Agenda for CESG Meeting on 10th May</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
All,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
please find attached the draft Agenda for the CESG Meeting in Mountain
View on Friday 10th May.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Please let me know if you have any item/topic to be escalated to CESG,
or, in general, topics that need to be brought to the attention of CESG
.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Also, if any further topic arises during the 4-days technical meetings,
please let me have your input as soon as possible, such that the topic
can be added to the Agenda..</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Kind regards,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Margherita </span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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Margherita di Giulio</b></span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Ground Station Systems Division</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><br>
Backend Software Section (OPS-GSB)</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Roman">
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Verdana"><b><br>
European Space Agency ESA/ESOC</b><br>
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany<br>
Tel: +49-6151-902779<br>
e-mail: </span><a href=mailto:Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><span style=" font-size:8pt;color:#0082bf;font-family:Verdana"><u>Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int</u></span></a></p>
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