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<p class="MsoNormal">Gippo, et al,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am formulating a specific resolution to make these changes. That said, my apologies for not sending along these tables on the note I sent earlier. I had sent them to the SSG, but did not attach them to this note to the CESG. I did
get feedback from the SANA that they will have to carefully review any possible impacts in S-band and C-band overlaps since they have done allocations in those band bins, as follows:.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">The consequence of changing eg. the S-band boundaries (since it is one of the most used band) might<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">be that there will be some overlapping as a current S-band Q-SCID (for example 3.5GHz) and a current<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">C-band Q-SCID (4.2GHz) could end up being in the same C-band with the proposed changes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is unfortunate that no one caught this issue until now, or if they did we did not recognize the nature of the potential problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, November 30, 2018 at 5:53 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org>, "SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <ssg@mailman.ccsds.org>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, "Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int" <Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int>, Dennis K Lee <Dennis.K.Lee@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CESG] FW: [SSG] Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Peter,</span></b>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> can you please clarify what is really the requested correction against the current </span><a href="https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/320x0m7.pdf"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/320x0m7.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I tried to find it through the sequence of mails attached to the attached mail that contain attached mails but I really got confused.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I can only think this is an update to Table 2-1: ITU/IEEE Frequency Bands but it is not clear which one precisely.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I added SLS-RFM Chairs to this distribution for the relevant checks.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Last but not least, I remember we had some discussion with CSS guys about Frequency bands definitions in
</span><a href="https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/902x1b1.pdf"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/902x1b1.pdf</span></a>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Since the Simple Schedule Format Blue Book refers to that table, I think that a
<b>statement/check by CSS Area</b> about possible side effects is also required.</span>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Enrico, Dennnis,</span></b>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> once the proposed correction is clearly defined, can you please and comment?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thank you all and have a nice week end</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Gian Paolo</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M \(312B\) via CESG" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <ssg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">29-11-18 21:51</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[CESG] FW: [SSG] Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: Confirmation on SCID request for
SES-17</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"CESG" <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear SSG,</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Do any of you not concur </span></i></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">that we should resolve this issue now by aligning the SCID frequency ranges used by the SANA to do allocations with the ITU values? </span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We will let the document catch up as we can get the Corrigendum edits done. Tom Gannett has said that he will fold this corrigendum to the SCID assignment procedure, CCSDS 320.0m7, into the changes needed to accommodate USLP.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I acknowledge that it is not the process we would normally follow, and would not want it to set a general precedent of any sort, but I think this is a special case where we made a mistake and really should correct it as quickly
as possible to avoid allocation problems.</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Please signal your agreement, or lack thereof, by return email.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks, Peter</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">"osvaldo.peinado@dlr.de" <osvaldo.peinado@dlr.de></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Date: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 11:08 AM</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter Shames <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Cc: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">"SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <ssg@mailman.ccsds.org></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">AW: [SSG] Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Totally agree with you Peter</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Von:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Shames, Peter M (312B) [</span></tt><a href="mailto:Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">mailto:Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">]
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gesendet:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Donnerstag, 29. November 2018 19:02</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">An:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Peinado, Osvaldo Luis; thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Cc:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> SANA Steering Group (SSG)</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Betreff:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Re: [SSG] Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Osvaldo,</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">That is more or less what I had in mind. After talking to my Spectrum Manager I think we made a mis-step in using the IEEE "RADAR" letter and frequency designations instead of the ITU ones. The RADAR designators were easy
to find and clear enough, but they ignore the finer points of the exact ranges of frequencies that are used by the Spectrum Managers of all agencies to assign frequencies to the SRS, EES, and FSS missions we service. As a result some of the IEEE frequency
boundaries had the effect of splitting ITU frequency allocation ranges. This change fixes that.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The important thing we need to do with this registry is to ensure that any mission using CCSDS protocols, at their ITU compliant assigned frequencies, has a SCID that is unique within their correct frequency bin.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards, Peter</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">"osvaldo.peinado@dlr.de" <osvaldo.peinado@dlr.de></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Date: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 1:29 AM</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter Shames <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">AW: [SSG] Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Peter</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It will be possible to accept this request (because it will match with the changes) and do as Tom proposed the update later on?</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Just and idea</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Von:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> SSG [</span></tt><a href="mailto:ssg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">mailto:ssg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Shames, Peter M (312B) via SSG</span></tt> <br>
<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gesendet:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Mittwoch, 28. November 2018 22:02</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">An:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Thomas Gannett; 'SANA Steering Group (SSG)'</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Betreff:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Re: [SSG] Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Tom,</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Ok. I think we need to get this sorted out soon since we have an SCID allocation to make. I'm going to assume that these changes will go through the whole process unscathed and recommend that the SANA use the new bin boundaries
in doing the allocation. I am frankly surprised that this has not surfaced before.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Remind me, were you going to make the USLP mods yourself or did you need some clues?</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks, Peter</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Date: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 10:01 AM</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter Shames <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, "SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <ssg@mailman.ccsds.org></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Cc: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">'Space Assigned Numbers Authority' <info@sanaregistry.org></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">RE: Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: [SSG] Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter: I propose holding off on the USLP corrigendum and doing both as a single corrigendum. –Tom</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Logothete, L.L.C.</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Shames, Peter M (312B) [</span></tt><a href="mailto:Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">mailto:Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">]
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sent:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:49 PM</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> SANA Steering Group (SSG)</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Cc:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Tom Gannett; Space Assigned Numbers Authority</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Proposed changes to SCID frequency bins, was Re: [SSG] Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Importance:</span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> High</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Guys,</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have just met with the JPL Spectrum Manager. It's a little funny, but in the allocation of these frequency bins for the CCSDS 320.0-M-7 update we did not pick up this disconnect between the IEEE Std 521TM-2002(R2009) boundaries
for RADAR frequency bins and the sets of specific frequencies allocated by the ITU for space research (SRS), Earth exploration (EESE), and fixed satellite (FSS) services. The frequencies for the IEEE
<b><i>Radar</i></b> letter designators (C, X, Ka, etc) are similar to, but not completely aligned with, these ITU allocations, and that seems to be the source of the problem. The ITU frequency range allocations are defined at a much finer granularity than
these letter designated bins that reflect our common use. I used the attached table of NTIA / ITU frequency designations, and feedback from our JPL spectrum manager, for guidance.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">For our purposes what we need is a set of bins that align with the commonly allocated ITU frequencies for SRS, EES, and FSS, such that they associate with a set of spacecraft and the frequencies that they are defined, by international
agreement, to operate at. This mis-alignment has caused some of the bins we adopted from the Radar designations to be a little out of step with how our space operations community has been used to referencing them. We need to make some changes to these in
order to get the frequency ranges associated with these designators to align with the ITU allocations and common usage.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I want to get SSG agreement on this before we finalize this, and I want to ask for CESG concurrence. Ultimately we will need to modify the 320.0-B document, using a corrigendum, and also edit the associated SANA bin frequency
ranges. The attached spreadsheet has the current Table 2-1 from CCSDS 320.0-M-7 and the proposed changes.
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Please review this and indicate if you see any issues.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks, Peter</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SSG <ssg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of "SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <ssg@mailman.ccsds.org></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Reply-To: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Peter Shames <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Date: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 12:07 PM</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Cc: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">"SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <ssg@mailman.ccsds.org></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Re: [SSG] Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Guys,</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I am researching this. I do not know if it was a lack of precision in the real frequencies for the specified bands or if it is some local usage of "band" names that is causing the confusion. We need to tie the requests to
actual frequencies, regardless of what they are called in any given country.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I'll get back to you as soon as I have an answer.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks, Peter</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Space Assigned Numbers Authority <info@sanaregistry.org></span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Date: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:57 AM</span></tt>
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<tt><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject: </span></b></tt><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Fwd: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We got a SCID request with frequency information not matching the</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">frequency band mapping defined in CCCSDS 320.0-M-7. As we asked for</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">feedback we got the response below and we are not qualified to answer it.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Could you please review it?</span></tt> <br>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Subject: RE: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:57:21 +0000</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: BOIROUX Philippe <</span></tt><a href="mailto:philippe.boiroux@thalesaleniaspace.com"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">philippe.boiroux@thalesaleniaspace.com</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">></span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To: Space Assigned Numbers Authority <</span></tt><a href="mailto:info@sanaregistry.org"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">info@sanaregistry.org</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">>,</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(and not to the Near Earth Downlink column) and as our TM frequencies</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">De : Space Assigned Numbers Authority [</span></tt><a href="mailto:info@sanaregistry.org"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">mailto:info@sanaregistry.org</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">]</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Envoyé : vendredi 23 novembre 2018 16:48</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">À : BOIROUX Philippe; </span></tt><a href="mailto:ESA_SCID@esa.int"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> ESA_SCID@esa.int</span></tt></a>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Objet : Re: Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Whatever the operating location is, your frequency band mapping does not</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The problem is rather that we need you to confirm that you selected the</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">correct value for frequency band, considering the CCSDS mapping.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 18-11-23 04 h 13, BOIROUX Philippe wrote:</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">De : Space Assigned Numbers Authority [</span></tt><a href="mailto:info@sanaregistry.org"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">mailto:info@sanaregistry.org</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">]
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Envoyé : jeudi 22 novembre 2018 15:45</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">À : </span></tt><a href="mailto:ESA_SCID@esa.int"><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> ESA_SCID@esa.int</span></tt></a><tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">; BOIROUX Philippe</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Objet : Confirmation on SCID request for SES-17</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We need some confirmation on your SCIDs request for SES-17.</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">In the two blocks of information provided below and according to the</span></tt>
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<tt><span style="font-size:12.0pt">mapping (see joined document) from CCCSDS 320.0-M-7</span></tt>
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