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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Gippo,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks. This addresses the second item, but it does not appear to address the first item at all. In the worst case this effort could actually result in adding even more distinct definitions to the SANA Glossary, which, I hope you will
agree, moves us in the wrong direction. I think your team needs to address how you propose to handle this. Will the final new agreed definitions all be marked as "preliminary", or will they be marked as "official"? Or will you propose that the obsoleted
definitions be marked as "obsolete" and left until the docs that created them are updated?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Treating old definitions as "obsolete" or "deprecated" is the moral equivalent of how we treat Silver Books, they are not found in the main search paths, but you can still find them. I think you need to identify some way to handle this
and review it with the SSG and the SNA.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 7:01 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Brian Oliver <brian.oliver@nasa.gov>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org>, Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CESG] Resolution SLS-R-2018-12-001 Start of CWE Project for “SLS Glossary of Terms”CCSDS 707.1-M Recommended Practice (Magenta Book)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Peter,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> the proposal and the concept paper are limited to the work to be done on that book.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">However the items you mention are not neglected as already in Berlin the SLS Area agreed to look into this issues deferring however the implementation "as appropriate" to the point in time the other
documents can be edited.</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This is not meaning that we do nothing in the meanwhile. Actually e-mail discussion were already triggered and there was also a presentation (and discussion) in the SLP WG about the "Glossary Issue
for SLS-SLP Global Virtual Channel Identifier (GVCID)".</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Clearly during the work duplications and discrepant definitions will have to be identified to do the work.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Once an agreement is reached for the definition to go into the new magenta book, the CCSDS Editor will be informed to collect the changes for other books (to be done when possible) and SANA will
be informed accordingly.</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I hope this clarifies your doubts and Brian can proceed with the CMC Poll.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Regards</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Gippo</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Shames, Peter M (312B)" <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, "Brian Oliver" <brian.oliver@nasa.gov></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, CCSDS CESG -- <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">03-12-18 17:19</span>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [CESG] Resolution SLS-R-2018-12-001 Start of CWE Project for “SLS Glossary of Terms”CCSDS 707.1-M
Recommended Practice (Magenta Book)</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Gippo,<o:p></o:p></p>
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From the SEA and SANA points of view I am really glad to see that you are tackling this topic. If it is done right it will surely be a net benefit to all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Along the lines of "if it is done right", what I did not see in this proposal is any work relating to these two topics:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">a. </span>Removing duplicate definitions from the SANA Glossary so that we just have one official set<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">b. </span>A plan to normalize the definitions in all the published standards so that we really have only one set of terms in use across the CCSDS standards and the SANA<o:p></o:p></p>
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It's not clear that either of these "clean up" tasks are part of the proposal. Are they?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Thanks, Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Monday, December 3, 2018 at 1:57 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Brian Oliver <brian.oliver@nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett@tgannett.net>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[CESG] Resolution SLS-R-2018-12-001 Start of CWE Project for “SLS Glossary of Terms”CCSDS 707.1-M Recommended Practice (Magenta Book)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Brian, <br>
can you please start at your earliest convenience the related CMC Poll for the attached SLS Resolution?</span>
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CESG is copied for information </span><br>
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Best regards to you all </span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
Gian Paolo </span><br>
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PS Relevant Concept Paper is also attached as a stand alone document and embedded in the resolution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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