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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi, Gian Paolo.  I understand your frustration at the amount of revision work that sometimes comes out of the CESG poll prior to Agency review – at that point
 you’ve been working on the document for a long time and you really want to get it out to the technical community; I have been there.  But Peter is right in at least two ways:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It’s in everybody’s interest to make sure the document that’s going out to Agency review doesn’t have anything glaringly wrong with it.  Otherwise we
 could be wasting a lot of people’s time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We can change the operating procedures of CCSDS, but until they have been changed by consensus I think it’s only fair for all of us to try hard to work
 within them as they are now, as adopted by consensus in the past.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> CESG [mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2017 2:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nestor.Peccia@esa.int<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec' <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CESG] Draft notes of CESG webex on 10th october 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Nestor,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">        here are my comments.</span>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1) CCSDS Fall 2017 meeting logistics at Marriott The Hague</span></b>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Even if this was not really discussed in the telecon, you may want to add the information (confirmed by ) that
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#004080">ISO WebEx does allow for toll-free call-in numbers</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">.</span>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">2) Polls with conditions not yet resolved</span></b>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Please add the SLS statement done during the meeting as follows:</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><<SLS AD stated that in future any poll condition not formulated as "PID in the form FROM-TO" will be considered invalid by SLS Area.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">SLS AS also stated that CESG cannot ask Agencies and WGs to stick to rules if those rules are not respected by CESGers with implied chameleon condition and longer processing time.>></span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Moreover can you please change from "        The proposed modifications will be discussed at the next physical meeting." to "<span style="color:blue">C&S and RFM WGs will discuss at the next physical
 meeting additional replies to SEA AD Conditions</span>".</span> <br>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">3) Confirmation of Holger Dreihahn, effective 1 January 2018 as the CSTS WG Chair</span></b>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">QUESTION: it is stated: As no candidate nomination was received for Deputy Chair, the position is currently vacant</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Is the position vacant or is the formed Deputy Chair still in charge?</span>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">4) CMC discussion to change the IOAG liaison .....</span></b>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I think your bullet #1 should mention IOAG and not CMC; i.e. "To continue with the current status, i.e. CESG Chair is the liaison to the
<b>IOAG</b>"</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Regards</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Gippo</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"'CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec'" <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">11/10/2017 10:17</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[CESG] Draft notes of CESG webex on 10th october 2017</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"CESG" <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear all,</span> <br>
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please find attached the draft notes for your comments</span> <br>
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If no comments are received prior to 20th Oct 2017, it implies you cocur with the draft notes.</span>
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ciao</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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