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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nestor,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This point about the quality of the documents starting with the WG and the ADs was made several times during the CESG meeting.  This did not make it into your minutes, but
 it was spoken and discussed more than once.  The fact that you chose to emphasize the role of the CESG in identifying issues <b><i>after the fact</i></b>, instead of putting the emphasis where it belongs, <b><i>at the source</i></b>, is itself a problem. 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The point was made, more than once, that the quality of CCSDS documents <b><i>MUST</i></b> start with the Book Captain, the WG chair, and the AD for that area.  Failing to
 deal with this at the source is why the rest of us, or those of us who do engage in the process, have all this "clean-up" work to do. 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The guidance in the CCSDS Organization and Process manual, CCSDS A02.1-Y-4, seems quite clear on this point of where responsibility rests.  It is presented "top down" in the
 Org & Proc doc, but the work clearly starts "bottom up" in the Working Groups.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In the CCSDS Org & Proc in Sec 2.3.2.3, the CESG, as a whole, is given the responsibility, as stated:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">a)  maintaining and upholding the overall technical quality and consistency of the evolving set of CCSDS Recommended Standards
 and Practices; 
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So the CESG is ultimately the "technical quality gatekeeper".  But each Area Director also has Responsibilities, sec 2.3.2.4.3:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">d)  ensuring that CCSDS documents are properly categorized and that they embody the content and quality expected of documents
 of their type; 
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">And fundamentally, the WG chair has the initial responsibility, Sec 2.3.3.4:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">e)  ensuring that documents developed by their WG are properly categorized and that they embody the content and quality expected
 of documents of their type; 
<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If we cannot all agree on this point then I think there is no recourse but to bring this disagreement to the CMC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 7:16 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May 2017; Proposed changes to Technical Quality and consistency of CCSDS Books<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif",serif">Peter</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif",serif">I am not prepared to accept some of your suggested additions</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif",serif">i.e.</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:red">During discussion it was made clear that the process of ensuring CCSDS document quality must start with the originating WG and AD, prior to the document ever being sent forward to the CESG.
</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt">... said,<span style="color:red"> starting with the originating WG and Area,
</span>at .....</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:red">The primary process changes are to require that the WG and AD’s do a more thorough check before sending books forward, that the members of the CESG provide feedback at the
 earliest opportunity, and that the CESG should issue PIDs, ad well as RIDs, during agency reviews.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif",serif">Why?  because we agreed on the text below, on which Brigitte made a photo with her mobile to immortalise the agreement.</span>
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<img width="703" height="500" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D2D480.435F7F00"><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif",serif">ciao</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif",serif">nestor</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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