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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Hi Nestor,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Thank you for the input. There are comments, questions and suggestion in the list below. It will be wonderful, if time permits, to have the original paragraph marked up with a track
change so I can see exactly where are the changes. This will be a great way for the CMC to consider a final version of the paragraph and eventually vote on it. Thank you for the CESG and your hard work and kind consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">James<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Dr. James Afarin
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Mobile: 202-549-6496</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">"Nestor.Peccia@esa.int" <Nestor.Peccia@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, April 28, 2017 at 5:57 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>James Afarin <james.afarin@nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec(cesg" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>CCSDS Liaison section<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">James</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">CESG will discuss your proposed changes on the liaison section during our next meeting.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">I have consolidated all comments received. Perhaps, time permitting, you can look at them and produce a new version prior to our venue.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">ciao</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">nestor</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">================================</span>
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<b><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">General Comments to proposed addition to section 4.1.4</span></u></b>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">It is proposed to define two different roles:</span>
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<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif""> " a CCSDS representative to act as official counterpart to the Liaison organization’s point of contact"</span>
<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="2" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">"an official representative to serve as Liaison Delegate to the external organization"
</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">CESG believes that
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<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">it is confusing (e.g how would their relationship be within CCSDS?</span>
<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="2" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">a timely co-existence of both representatives for a liaison is not needed</span>
<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="3" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">"The Liaison Delegate shall be cognizant of the standardization activities of the external organization and, at the discretion of his or her respective Agency, may participate in those activities
at a level allowed by the organization’s liaison procedures and deemed beneficial to the CCSDS".</span>
<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="3" type="1">
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo6">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">CESG believe that this is the currently the case for the 14 existing liaisons<span style="color:red">.</span> We suggest to add anyway the 1st part of the sentence, i.e "<span style="color:blue">The
Liaison Delegate shall be cognizant of the standardization activities of the external organization
</span>"</span> <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<ol start="3" type="1">
<ol start="2" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">The 2nd part of the sentence</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif""> ( i.e. ... at the discretion of ... Agency ...)
<span style="color:red">should not be considered</span>. An Agency when approving one of its staff as liaison, is committing to support her / him in that role</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:blue">CESG suggest to have only one liaison PoC but with 2 levels of participation</span>
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<ul type="disc">
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:blue">active (i.e active participation in working meetings of the other organization. IOAG is a clear example of this level. OMG liaison shall also be active)</span>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:blue">passive (i.e. observing / monitoring. CASCO is a clear example of this level)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">
CESG suggest to add some text clarifying the<span style="color:blue"> procedure to follow when the liaison detects duplications and / or contradictions across the two organizations.</span></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo9">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">CESG fully supports</span>
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<ul type="disc">
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo10">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">a bi-annual nomination
<span style="color:blue">(potentially renewable</span>),<span style="color:blue"> proposed by the CESG</span><span style="color:red">
</span>and authorised by the CMC</span> <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<ol start="2" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo11">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">a semi-annual report (<span style="color:blue">Spring and Fall meetings</span>) of the CESG to the CMC</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<b><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Comments to proposed addition to section 4.2</span></u></b>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo12">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:blue">Both liaison PoC shall be included in the web site. We have currently only 1 name.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<b><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Comments to current section 2.3.1.4.3</span></u></b>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<ol start="1" type="1">
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:blue">Section to be updated pointing to section 4,.1.4</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<b><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Comments to current Section 4.1.4
</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo14">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">" Liaison organizations are those governmental or private activities ..." <span style="color:red"> Does this text cover the current liaisons with IOAG and ECSS ? Is IOAG a governmental organization?
Is the word activity correct ?</span></span> <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="2" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo15">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">" Liaison status is open to non-commercial ..." <span style="color:red"> Is " status" text correct ? Do we need to have the " non commercial" text ? Is OMG non-commercial, when charging a fee
to every member ?</span></span> <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="3" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo16">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Suggestion to add after 2nd sentence. "<span style="color:blue">The purpose of creating a liaison is to ensure that their work in the standards world is not competitive, but rather is complementary
and cooperative . This is achieved by reciprocally exchange information regarding current and future standardization activitie</span><span style="color:red">s</span>" . Editorial mistakes in Section 2.3.1.4.3 shall be updated (i.e. " insure" , " complimentary"
).</span> <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="4" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">" Liaison organizations receive ..." Add "
<span style="color:blue">from CCSDS Secretariat</span>" </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<ol start="5" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">"... submit comments or initiate Review Item Dispositions (RIDs)" :<span style="color:red"> Either we add a sentence clarifying that</span><span style="color:blue"> if the liaison send comments
and not RIDs, the CCSDS Secretariat will convert them into RIDs</span> or <span style="color:red">
we delete the word comments, imposing the liaisons to send only RIDs</span>"<span style="color:red"> </span></span>
<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo19">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Text seems to be rather uni-directional (e.g. from CCSDS to the other organization).<span style="color:red">
</span><span style="color:blue">CESG suggests to add text wrt the obligation of both organizations to exchange, Plans, resolutions, decisions, RIDs, etc.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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