<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Peter I did not say there was repetition between goals and achievements but rather between goals and status bullets. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 01 Nov 2016, at 21:03, Shames, Peter M (312B) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I know we discussed this, but do not recall quite that conclusion. My recollection is the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Goals: We plan during the meeting to do
<b>xyz</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Achievements: We actually did
<b>pqr</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It is not necessarily the case the
<b>xyz</b> == <b>pqr</b>, either in type nor in breadth or specificity of content. Therefore I think having them both still is of value, even if in many case they are, in fact, directly related.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of Gian Paolo Calzolari <<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 12:12 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Erik Barkley <<a href="mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov">erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>, "Wilmot, Jonathan J.(GSFC-5820)" <<a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</a>>, CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CESG] Updated template for WG Report to Area<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The point was that goals finished on being a subset of the status bullets; i.e. the presentation we had were basically saying<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">We discussed goal 1<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Gippo<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 01 Nov 2016, at 20:09, Barkley, Erik J (3970) <<a href="mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov">erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Gippo,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I do remember you requested the goals to be removed, but I do not recall the rationale. Can you offer a rationale? It strikes me as rather odd to
be reporting to management and not indicate what the goals for the last meeting cycle were and whether or not they have been met. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I do agree with the clarification between resolutions from the meetings vs. those upcoming in the next 6 months.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Nestor,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I have no significant issues with the format.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">-Erik</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> CESG [<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CESG <<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>; Wilmot, Jonathan J.(GSFC-5820) <<a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</a>>; CESG -- CCSDS-Engineering SteeringGroup(<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>)(<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>)
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CESG] Updated template for WG Report to Area</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">My proposal as mentioned in Rome is:</span>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Slide 2:</span></b> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Remove goals</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">For "Working Group Status" change description to e.g.: [Progress Summary, Activity performed in this meeting (maximum 2 or 3 lines of text per bullet)]</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Move "Achievements" from slide 3 to slide 2</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Have items in this sequence: "Working Group Status" + "Interaction with other WGs" + "Achievements" + "Problems and Issues"</span>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Slide 3</span></b> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Move "Achievements" from slide 3 to slide 2</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Change from "Resolutions expected in the next 6 months" to e.g. "Resolutions in this meeting and till next meeting" (just to avoid that somebody thinks that a resolution finalized in the meeting shall be not
be listed :o)</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Best regards</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Gippo</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial">"CESG -- CCSDS-Engineering SteeringGroup(<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org)(cesg@mailman.ccsds.org)">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org)(cesg@mailman.ccsds.org)</a>"
<<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>, "Wilmot, Jonathan J.\(GSFC-5820\)" <<a href="mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov">jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial">01/11/2016 18:32</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial">[CESG] Updated template for WG Report to Area</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Dear all,</span> <br>
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following a "salami technique" approach,</span> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">
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please find attached an updated WG report template for your review</span> <br>
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Let me have your <u><span style="color:red">comments by Friday 4th Nov 2016 cob. No comments by then implies you are happy with the updated template.</span></u></span>
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I will then produce a new version and distribute it to all WG Chairs for further comments</span>
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Once the cycle is finished I will continue with the Area report template</span> <br>
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